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Re: WPAC: Tropical Depression 14W

#21 Postby SuperMarioBros99thx » Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:39 pm

This one might be named "Banyan". Models had predicting that Banyan was the storm that will form west of the Koreas (Yellow Sea) but they're busted and instead that storm might be Hato.
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Re: WPAC: Tropical Depression 14W

#22 Postby dexterlabio » Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:47 pm

mrbagyo wrote:Image
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Conditions aren't favorable in the Western pacific right now with the suppressed MJO phase, but this one just happens to find the little sweet spot. :lol:
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Re: WPAC: Tropical Depression 14W

#23 Postby euro6208 » Fri Aug 11, 2017 2:16 am

14W FOURTEEN 170811 0600 17.0N 169.0E WPAC 35 1007
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Re: WPAC: Tropical Depression 14W

#24 Postby Digital-TC-Chaser » Fri Aug 11, 2017 2:48 am

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Conditions aren't favorable in the Western pacific right now

Sometimes those MJO charts from MV's site are very aggressive with the forecast.
Its obvious there is no large scale subsidence over that part of the WP as it is portrayed
on those GFS mjo models.
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Re: WPAC: Tropical Depression 14W

#25 Postby mrbagyo » Fri Aug 11, 2017 3:06 am

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Re: WPAC: Tropical Depression 14W

#26 Postby euro6208 » Fri Aug 11, 2017 5:06 am

35 knots.

WDPN31 PGTW 110900
MSGID/GENADMIN/JOINT TYPHOON WRNCEN PEARL HARBOR HI//
SUBJ/PROGNOSTIC REASONING FOR TROPICAL DEPRESSION 14W (FOURTEEN)
WARNING NR 02//
RMKS/
1. FOR METEOROLOGISTS.
2. 6 HOUR SUMMARY AND ANALYSIS.
TROPICAL STORM 14W (FOURTEEN), LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 194 NM
SOUTHEAST OF WAKE ISLAND, HAS TRACKED WEST-NORTHWESTWARD AT 10 KNOTS
OVER THE PAST SIX HOURS. ANIMATED MULTISPECTRAL SATELLITE IMAGERY
SHOWS A SLOWLY CONSOLIDATING SYSTEM WITH CURVED CONVECTIVE BANDING
WRAPPING INTO A DEEP CONVECTION AREA ABOVE A COMPACT LOW LEVEL
CIRCULATION CENTER (LLCC). AN 110424Z SSMIS 91 GHZ MICROWAVE IMAGE
SHOWS WEAKER CONVECTIVE BANDING WRAPPING AROUND THE WESTERN SIDE OF
THE SYSTEM WITH DEEP CONVECTION WRAPPING INTO THE LLCC IN THE
SOUTHERN SEMI-CIRCLE. THE INITIAL POSITION IS BASED ON THE PGTW FIX
AND THE AFOREMENTIONED MICROWAVE IMAGE WITH FAIR CONFIDENCE. THE
INITIAL INTENSITY ASSESSMENT OF 35 KNOTS IS BASED ON MULTI-
AGENCY DVORAK ESTIMATES RANGING FROM T2.0 TO T2.5 (30-35 KNOTS) FROM
RJTD AND PGTW RESPECTIVELY. ENVIRONMENTAL ANALYSIS SHOWS THAT THE
SYSTEM HAS GOOD UPPER LEVEL OUTFLOW, THOUGH NO CLEAR CHANNELS ARE
PRESENT. TS 14W IS LOCATED IN AN AREA OF LOW (10-15 KNOTS) VERTICAL
WIND SHEAR (VWS) AND IS TRACKING THROUGH AN AREA OF WARM SEA SURFACE
TEMPERATURES (29-30 CELSIUS). THE SYSTEM IS CURRENTLY TRACKING
NORTHWEST ALONG THE SOUTHWESTERN EXTENT OF A SUBTROPICAL STEERING
RIDGE (STR) LOCATED TO THE NORTHEAST.
3. FORECAST REASONING.
A. THE FORECAST PHILOSOPHY FOR TS 14W REMAINS UNCHANGED FROM THE
PREVIOUS PROGNOSTIC REASONING PHILOSOPHY.
B. TS 14W IS EXPECTED TO INITIALLY TRACK NORTHWESTWARD OVER THE
NEXT 36 HOURS AS IT ROUNDS THE WESTERN EDGE OF THE STR. AFTER TAU 36
A DEEP LAYERED MID-LATITUDE TROUGH AFTER WHICH A DEEP LAYER TROUGH
WILL MOVE IN FROM THE WEST CAUSING THE SYSTEM TO RECURVE AROUND THE
STR AND TRACK TO THE NORTHEAST. GRADUAL INTENSIFICATION WILL OCCUR
OVER THE NEXT 36 HOURS, PEAKING AT AROUND 45 KNOTS. AFTER TAU 36
INCREASING VWS COMBINED WITH STRONG GRADIENT FLOW WILL CAUSE A
GRADUAL DISSIPATION OF THE SYSTEM.
C. AFTER TAU 72, TS 14W WILL TRACK TO THE NORTHEAST AS IT IS
ABSORBED BY A BAROCLINIC ZONE WHICH IS THE RESULT OF THE PASSING MID-
LATITUDE TROUGH. ONCE THE SYSTEM BEGINS INTERACTING WITH THE TROUGH
IT WILL BEGIN EXTRATROPICAL TRANSITION, BECOMING FULLY EXTRATROPICAL
BY TAU 96. THE SYSTEM IS FORECAST TO GRADUALLY WEAKEN, HOWEVER,
STRONG GRADIENT FLOW IS EXPECTED TO PERSIST IN THE BAROCLINIC ZONE
WHILE THE STORM IS TRANSITIONING TO EXTRATROPICAL. DUE TO GLOBAL
MODELS FAILING TO INITIALIZE A CLOSED CIRCULATION, THERE IS LOW
CONFIDENCE IN THE JTWC FORECAST. //
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Re: WPAC: Tropical Depression 14W

#27 Postby euro6208 » Fri Aug 11, 2017 5:22 am

UW - CIMSS
ADVANCED DVORAK TECHNIQUE
ADT-Version 8.2.1
Tropical Cyclone Intensity Algorithm

----- Current Analysis -----
Date : 11 AUG 2017 Time : 094000 UTC
Lat : 17:36:31 N Lon : 168:23:16 E


CI# /Pressure/ Vmax
2.8 / 996.8mb/ 41.0kt


Final T# Adj T# Raw T#
2.8 2.9 3.4

Center Temp : -61.2C Cloud Region Temp : -53.0C

Scene Type : CURVED BAND with 0.92 ARC in LT GRAY

Positioning Method : FORECAST INTERPOLATION

Ocean Basin : WEST PACIFIC
Dvorak CI > MSLP Conversion Used : CKZ Method

Tno/CI Rules : Constraint Limits : 0.7T/6hr
Weakening Flag : OFF
Rapid Dissipation Flag : OFF

C/K/Z MSLP Estimate Inputs :
- Average 34 knot radii : N/A
- Environmental MSLP : 1008mb

Satellite Name : HIM-8
Satellite Viewing Angle : 37.4 degrees

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Re: WPAC: Tropical Depression 14W

#28 Postby euro6208 » Fri Aug 11, 2017 5:26 am

It's in a very low shear environment and what looks to be a developing anticyclone over it.

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Re: WPAC: Tropical Depression 14W

#29 Postby euro6208 » Fri Aug 11, 2017 6:28 am

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Finally at least one of the models responds with something. Still all of them are severely underestimating this. Poor Initialization.
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Re: WPAC: Tropical Depression 14W

#30 Postby euro6208 » Fri Aug 11, 2017 6:31 am

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Re: WPAC: Tropical Depression 14W

#31 Postby HURAKAN » Fri Aug 11, 2017 8:26 am

We have Banyan

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Re: WPAC: Banyan - TROPICAL STORM

#32 Postby euro6208 » Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:03 am

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Here comes the eye. 25 to probrably 35 knots too low for JTWC and JMA. :roll:
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Re: WPAC: Banyan - TROPICAL STORM

#33 Postby HURAKAN » Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:05 am

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45 knots
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Re: WPAC: Banyan - TROPICAL STORM

#34 Postby euro6208 » Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:28 am

WDPN31 PGTW 111500
MSGID/GENADMIN/JOINT TYPHOON WRNCEN PEARL HARBOR HI//
SUBJ/PROGNOSTIC REASONING FOR TROPICAL DEPRESSION 14W (BANYAN)
WARNING NR 03//
RMKS/
1. FOR METEOROLOGISTS.
2. 6 HOUR SUMMARY AND ANALYSIS.
TROPICAL STORM 14W (BANYAN), LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 122 NM SOUTH-
SOUTHEAST OF WAKE ISLAND, HAS TRACKED WEST-NORTHWESTWARD AT 14 KNOTS
OVER THE PAST SIX HOURS. ANIMATED INFRARED SATELLITE IMAGERY SHOWS
CONVECTIVE BANDING WRAPPING INTO A CENTRAL CONVECTIVE MASS OVER THE
LOW LEVEL CIRCULATION CENTER (LLCC). AN 111027Z METOP-B MHS 89 GHZ
MICROWAVE IMAGE SHOWS WEAKER CONVECTIVE BANDING WRAPPING AROUND THE
WESTERN AND EASTERN SIDE AND INTO THE CENTRALLY LOCATED DEEP
CONVECTION. THE MICROWAVE IMAGE ALSO SHOWS THAT THE DEEP CONVECTION
IS SLIGHTLY DISPLACED TO THE SOUTHEAST. THE INITIAL POSITION IS
BASED ON THE PGTW FIX AND EXTRAPOLATION FROM AN 111029Z METOP-A
ASCAT IMAGE WITH HIGH CONFIDENCE. THE INITIAL INTENSITY ASSESSMENT
OF 35 KNOTS IS BASED ON MULTI-AGENCY DVORAK ESTIMATES OF T2.5 (35
KNOTS) FROM BOTH RJTD AND PGTW. THE DVORAK ESTIMATES ARE SUPPORTED
BY THE ASCAT IMAGE THAT SHOWS 40 KNOT WIND BARBS WITHIN THE RAIN-
FLAGGED AREA MEANING THEY ARE BIASED SLIGHTLY HIGH. ENVIRONMENTAL
ANALYSIS SHOWS THAT THE SYSTEM IS DEVELOPING AN EQUATORWARD OUTFLOW
CHANNEL IS LOCATED IN AN AREA OF LOW (5-10 KNOTS) VERTICAL WIND
SHEAR (VWS) AND IS TRACKING THROUGH AN AREA OF WARM SEA SURFACE
TEMPERATURES (29-30 CELSIUS). TS BANYAN IS CURRENTLY TRACKING
NORTHWEST ALONG THE WESTERN PERIPHERY OF A SUBTROPICAL STEERING
RIDGE (STR) LOCATED TO THE NORTHEAST.
3. FORECAST REASONING.
A. THE FORECAST PHILOSOPHY FOR TS 14W REMAINS UNCHANGED FROM THE
PREVIOUS PROGNOSTIC REASONING PHILOSOPHY.
B. TS 14W IS EXPECTED TO INITIALLY TRACK NORTH-NORTHWEST OVER THE
NEXT 36 HOURS AS IT ROUNDS THE WESTERN EXTENT OF THE STR. AFTER TAU
36 A DEEP LAYERED MID-LATITUDE TROUGH IS FORECAST TO MOVE IN FROM
THE WEST AND CAUSE TS 14W TO RECURVE AND TRACK TO THE NORTH-
NORTHEAST. LIMITED INTENSIFICATION WILL OCCUR OVER THE NEXT 36 HOURS
WITH MAX WINDS REACHING 45 KNOTS. AFTER TAU 36, AS THE TROUGH BEGINS
TO IMPACT THE AREA, INCREASING VWS COMBINED WITH STRONG GRADIENT
FLOW WILL BEGIN TO WEAKEN THE SYSTEM. DYNAMIC MODEL GUIDANCE IS NOW
INITIATING WITH A CLOSED CIRCULATION AND ARE IN STRONG AGREEMENT,
LENDING HIGH CONFIDENCE IN THIS PORTION OF THE JTWC FORECAST TRACK.
C. AFTER TAU 72, TS 14W WILL CONTINUE TO TRACK TO THE NORTHEAST AS
IT IS ABSORBED INTO A BAROCLINIC ZONE ESTABLISHED BY THE MID-
LATITUDE TOUGH. AROUND TAU 72, TS BANYAN WILL BEGIN EXTRA-TROPICAL
TRANSITION, BECOMING FULLY EXTRATROPICAL BY TAU 96. THE SYSTEM IS
FORECAST TO CONTINUE TO WEAKEN, HOWEVER, STRONG GRADIENT FLOW IS
EXPECTED TO PERSIST IN THE BAROCLINIC ZONE, CAUSING WINDS TO REMAIN
AROUND 25 TO 30 KNOTS FOR THE DURATION OF THE FORECAST PERIOD.
DYNAMIC MODEL GUIDANCE IS IN GOOD AGREEMENT THAT THE SYSTEM WILL
TRACK TO THE NORTHEAST HOWEVER THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT SPREAD IN THE
EXACT DIRECTION LENDING LOW CONFIDENCE IN THIS PORTION OF THE JTWC
FORECAST TRACK.//
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Re: WPAC: BANYAN - Tropical Storm

#35 Postby euro6208 » Fri Aug 11, 2017 4:19 pm

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Now forecast to peak at 75 knots.

WDPN31 PGTW 112100
MSGID/GENADMIN/JOINT TYPHOON WRNCEN PEARL HARBOR HI//
SUBJ/PROGNOSTIC REASONING FOR TROPICAL DEPRESSION 14W (BANYAN)
WARNING NR 04//
RMKS/
1. FOR METEOROLOGISTS.
2. 6 HOUR SUMMARY AND ANALYSIS.
TROPICAL STORM 14W (BANYAN), LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 66 NM SOUTH
OF
WAKE ISLAND, HAS TRACKED WEST-NORTHWESTWARD AT 14 KNOTS OVER THE
PAST SIX HOURS. THE CURRENT POSITION IS BASED ON RECENT MICROWAVE
SATELLITE IMAGERY INCLUDING AN 111659Z SSIS PASS. THE INTENSITY OF
40 KNOTS IS BASED ON MULTI-AGENCY DVORAK FIX VALUES AND IMPROVING
LOW-LEVEL STRUCTURE EVIDENT IN MICROWAVE IMAGERY. DURING THE PAST
SIX HOURS, TS 14W HAS CONTINUED TO TRACK ALONG THE SOUTHWESTERN
PERIPHERY OF A SUBTROPICAL STEERING RIDGE TOWARD THE BASE OF AN
APPROACHING MID-LATITUDE TROUGH TO THE NORTHWEST. CENTRAL
CONVECTION
HAS INCREASED OVER THE PAST SEVERAL HOURS, ALTHOUGH THIS CONVECTION
HAS BEEN DISPLACED SLIGHTLY TO THE SOUTHEAST OF THE LOW-LEVEL
CENTER
BY LIGHT TO MODERATE VERTICAL WIND SHEAR. SEA SURFACE TEMPERATURES
AND TOTAL OCEAN HEAT CONTENT ARE VERY HIGH, AND SUPPORTIVE OF
FURTHER DEVELOPMENT.
3. FORECAST REASONING.
A. THE MEDIUM TO EXTENDED-RANGE FORECAST TRACK LIES
SIGNIFICANTLY
TO THE WEST OF THE PREVIOUS FORECAST DUE TO A CHANGE IN THE
ASSESSMENT OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL STEERING PATTERN. FORECAST
INTENSITIES HAVE BEEN INCREASED BASED ON RECENT TRENDS AND
FAVORABLE
ANTICIPATED ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS.
B. TS 14W WILL TURN INCREASINGLY POLEWARD OVER THE NEXT 24 HOURS
AS IT ROUNDS THE STEERING RIDGE AXIS AND APPROACHES THE BASE OF AN
UPPER-LEVEL TROUGH CURRENTLY ANALYZED TO THE NORTHWEST OF THE
SYSTEM. THE SYSTEM IS NO LONGER EXPECTED TO MERGE WITH THIS
APPROACHING TROUGH BUT INSTEAD TO CONTINUE TRACKING GENERALLY
POLEWARD THOUGH TAU 72, WHEN IT WILL THEN BEGIN INTERACTING WITH A
SECOND TROUGH APPROACHING FROM THE NORTHWEST. STEADY
INTENSIFICATION
IS EXPECTED OVER THE NEXT 36 TO 48 HOURS AS THE CYCLONE PASSES OVER
VERY WARM WATER AND THROUGH A SUPPORTIVE UPPER-LEVEL FLOW PATTERN.
ALTHOUGH CURRENT NUMERICAL MODEL GUIDANCE SUGGESTS A STEADY TREND,
INTENSIFICATION ABOVE THE CURRENT FORECAST IS POSSIBLE GIVEN
FAVORABLE ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS. WEAKENING IS EXPECTED BY BEGIN
BY TAU 72 AS TS 14W INTERACTS WITH THE AFOREMENTIONED SECOND
TROUGH.
C. AFTER TAU 72, TS 14W IS EXPECTED TO ACCELERATE POLEWARD AND
JOIN THE MID-LATITUDE WESTERLY FLOW PATTERN. EXTRATROPICAL
TRANSITION WILL OCCUR DURING THIS PERIOD, COMPLETING BY TAU 96.
ALTHOUGH NUMERICAL MODEL GUIDANCE IS IN FAIR AGREEMENT WITH THE
OVERALL TRACK SCENARIO, MODEL SPREAD INCREASES AFTER TAU 36 AS EACH
MODEL DEPICTS THE SHARPNESS AND SPEED OF THE POLEWARD AND EVENTUAL
NORTHEASTWARD TURNS DIFFERENTLY. GIVEN THIS PATTERN, THERE IS HIGH
CONFIDENCE IN THE JTWC TRACK FORECAST THROUGH TAU 36, AND LOW
CONFIDENCE THEREAFTER.//
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Re: WPAC: BANYAN - Tropical Storm

#36 Postby euro6208 » Fri Aug 11, 2017 4:24 pm

TS 1712 (Banyan)
Issued at 18:45 UTC, 11 August 2017

<Analysis at 18 UTC, 11 August>
Scale -
Intensity -
Center position N18°05' (18.1°)
E167°00' (167.0°)
Direction and speed of movement NW 20 km/h (12 kt)
Central pressure 1004 hPa
Maximum wind speed near center 18 m/s (35 kt)
Maximum wind gust speed 25 m/s (50 kt)
≥ 30 kt wind area ALL 170 km (90 NM)

<Forecast for 06 UTC, 12 August>
Intensity -
Center position of probability circle N20°05' (20.1°)
E165°40' (165.7°)
Direction and speed of movement NNW 20 km/h (12 kt)
Central pressure 1000 hPa
Maximum wind speed near center 20 m/s (40 kt)
Maximum wind gust speed 30 m/s (60 kt)
Radius of probability circle 70 km (40 NM)

<Forecast for 18 UTC, 12 August>
Intensity -
Center position of probability circle N22°00' (22.0°)
E164°40' (164.7°)
Direction and speed of movement NNW 20 km/h (11 kt)
Central pressure 998 hPa
Maximum wind speed near center 23 m/s (45 kt)
Maximum wind gust speed 35 m/s (65 kt)
Radius of probability circle 110 km (60 NM)

<Forecast for 18 UTC, 13 August>
Intensity -
Center position of probability circle N26°05' (26.1°)
E165°40' (165.7°)
Direction and speed of movement N 20 km/h (11 kt)
Central pressure 998 hPa
Maximum wind speed near center 23 m/s (45 kt)
Maximum wind gust speed 35 m/s (65 kt)
Radius of probability circle 280 km (150 NM)

<Forecast for 18 UTC, 14 August>
Intensity -
TD
Center position of probability circle N31°35' (31.6°)
E167°55' (167.9°)
Direction and speed of movement NNE 30 km/h (15 kt)
Central pressure 1006 hPa
Radius of probability circle 410 km (220 NM)
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Re: WPAC: BANYAN - Tropical Storm

#37 Postby HURAKAN » Fri Aug 11, 2017 8:13 pm

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Still 45 kt
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Re: WPAC: BANYAN - Tropical Storm

#38 Postby euro6208 » Fri Aug 11, 2017 8:26 pm

JTWC went with 50 knots and JMA 45 knots.
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Re: WPAC: BANYAN - Tropical Storm

#39 Postby 1900hurricane » Fri Aug 11, 2017 8:49 pm

Looks like some hints of a developing banding eye.

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Re: WPAC: BANYAN - Tropical Storm

#40 Postby HURAKAN » Fri Aug 11, 2017 11:53 pm

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beautiful and very small system, Wake Island has not reported sustained winds or gusts to tropical storm intensity, and Banyan passed about 60 miles from the island
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