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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#7721 Postby bjackrian » Wed Aug 30, 2017 10:15 pm

RL3AO wrote: https://twitter.com/MichaelRLowry/status/903090323462782976




Remarkable SST change in the last week due to upwelling and runoff.


Dumb question: Is the water along the coast there deep enough/cold enough to be upwelling, or is it just so much convective/cooled water falling in the form of rain that's dropping the temps?
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#7722 Postby Hurricane Andrew » Wed Aug 30, 2017 10:15 pm

I need any and all information on a dam break currently happening...we are currently trying to ascertain what we can.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#7723 Postby SoupBone » Wed Aug 30, 2017 10:17 pm

Hurricane Andrew wrote:I need any and all information on a dam break currently happening...we are currently trying to ascertain what we can.


Read through the last page, not happening. That rumor is hours old.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#7724 Postby beachbum123 » Wed Aug 30, 2017 10:19 pm

JtSmarts wrote:Yeah it looks like Rock hasn't posted since the 26th. Does anyone know how conditions were in Kemah?

We have not heard much news coverage about Kemah, but I know all of the areas around him flooded pretty bad.
Does anyone have any other means to contact him other than here?
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#7725 Postby Hurricane Andrew » Wed Aug 30, 2017 10:28 pm

SoupBone wrote:
Hurricane Andrew wrote:I need any and all information on a dam break currently happening...we are currently trying to ascertain what we can.


Read through the last page, not happening. That rumor is hours old.

We are getting reports that says otherwise.

EDIT: It was the I-10 median, not the dam itself.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#7726 Postby WeatherLovingDoc » Wed Aug 30, 2017 10:36 pm

Hurricane Andrew wrote:
SoupBone wrote:
Hurricane Andrew wrote:I need any and all information on a dam break currently happening...we are currently trying to ascertain what we can.


Read through the last page, not happening. That rumor is hours old.

We are getting reports that says otherwise.

EDIT: It was the I-10 median, not the dam itself.


Here are your dams in Vidor Texas part of Orange County:

# Dam Distance
1. Dupont Plant Reservoir Levee 17 mi.
2. Owens-Illinois Lake Dam 17.6 mi.
3. Cougar Country Lake Dam 25.4 mi.
4. Garcia Lake Dam 28.8 mi.
5. North Prong Locks 32.5 mi.
6. George Lake Dam 33.6 mi.
7. East Jetty 33.7 mi.
8. Marshall Estate Dam Number 1 33.8 mi.
9. Spindletop Weir Saltwater Barrier Dam 33.9 mi.
10. Marshall Estate Dam Number 2 34.1 mi.

http://www.geostat.org/data/vidor-tx/dams

Thank you for offering your help with dispatch tonight, Andrew. :)
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#7727 Postby Hurricane Andrew » Wed Aug 30, 2017 10:38 pm

WeatherLovingDoc wrote:
Hurricane Andrew wrote:
SoupBone wrote:
Read through the last page, not happening. That rumor is hours old.

We are getting reports that says otherwise.

EDIT: It was the I-10 median, not the dam itself.


Here are your dams in Vidor Texas part of Orange County:

# Dam Distance
1. Dupont Plant Reservoir Levee 17 mi.
2. Owens-Illinois Lake Dam 17.6 mi.
3. Cougar Country Lake Dam 25.4 mi.
4. Garcia Lake Dam 28.8 mi.
5. North Prong Locks 32.5 mi.
6. George Lake Dam 33.6 mi.
7. East Jetty 33.7 mi.
8. Marshall Estate Dam Number 1 33.8 mi.
9. Spindletop Weir Saltwater Barrier Dam 33.9 mi.
10. Marshall Estate Dam Number 2 34.1 mi.

http://www.geostat.org/data/vidor-tx/dams

Thank you for offering your help with dispatch tonight, Andrew. :)

Thank you very much! They confirmed it was not the dam itself.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#7728 Postby SoupBone » Wed Aug 30, 2017 10:40 pm

Hurricane Andrew wrote:
SoupBone wrote:
Hurricane Andrew wrote:I need any and all information on a dam break currently happening...we are currently trying to ascertain what we can.


Read through the last page, not happening. That rumor is hours old.

We are getting reports that says otherwise.

EDIT: It was the I-10 median, not the dam itself.


My mistake. We need to include location when discussing things like this. There was a rumor earlier about the Addicks.
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#7729 Postby CrazyC83 » Wed Aug 30, 2017 10:40 pm

Inside the last NHC discussion:

The National Hurricane Center would like to thank all the men and
women that have worked countless hours at local National Weather
Service Forecast offices along the Gulf coast providing life-saving
warnings and information during the past week, on top of preparing
their family and homes for the storm. The center would also like to
acknowledge the dedication of the Air Force and NOAA Hurricane
Hunter aircraft crews that flew numerous missions into Harvey. In
addition, NHC thanks the staff at the Weather Prediction Center,
who led efforts to coordinate forecasts of the historic
flooding event, NWS River Forecast Centers that provided flood
guidance, and the Storm Prediction Center, that coordinated tornado
forecasts.


Oh, and once it dissipates, it will surely be the :Can: for you Harvey! Certainly will NOT be seeing you in 2023!
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#7730 Postby Alyono » Wed Aug 30, 2017 11:09 pm

likely will NEVER see Harvey again in ANY basin worldwide
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#7731 Postby jasons2k » Wed Aug 30, 2017 11:15 pm

THIS IS THE LAST FORECAST/ADVISORY ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL HURRICANE
CENTER ON THIS SYSTEM. FUTURE INFORMATION ON THIS SYSTEM CAN BE
FOUND IN PUBLIC ADVISORIES ISSUED BY THE WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER
BEGINNING AT 0900 UTC, UNDER AWIPS HEADER TCPAT4, WMO HEADER
WTNT34 KWNH, AND ON THE WEB AT HTTP://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#7732 Postby Hurricane Andrew » Wed Aug 30, 2017 11:25 pm

Good riddance, you piece of you know what storm. I have never hated a storm before, until now.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#7733 Postby storm_in_a_teacup » Wed Aug 30, 2017 11:27 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:Inside the last NHC discussion:

The National Hurricane Center would like to thank all the men and
women that have worked countless hours at local National Weather
Service Forecast offices along the Gulf coast providing life-saving
warnings and information during the past week, on top of preparing
their family and homes for the storm. The center would also like to
acknowledge the dedication of the Air Force and NOAA Hurricane
Hunter aircraft crews that flew numerous missions into Harvey. In
addition, NHC thanks the staff at the Weather Prediction Center,
who led efforts to coordinate forecasts of the historic
flooding event, NWS River Forecast Centers that provided flood
guidance, and the Storm Prediction Center, that coordinated tornado
forecasts.


Oh, and once it dissipates, it will surely be the :Can: for you Harvey! Certainly will NOT be seeing you in 2023!


Somebody's getting way too enthusiastic for the death of something that isn't even alive...
Dunno why but I've never really felt the urge to shake my fist at the sky or spray paint "[storm name] Go Away" anywhere. Guess I have trouble getting angry at floodwaters. Mostly just sad. And scared.
(Then again this is coming from someone who personifies storms as a way to cope with things...just in a different way from most other people. I don't really get the characterization of storms as wrathful. Especially hurricanes. If they really were coming to smite us, they wouldn't die over land, you know...)
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#7734 Postby BZSTORM » Wed Aug 30, 2017 11:29 pm

Although this is 4 days old and I apologize if it was posted back at the time and I'm repeating it, I haven't seen this before today. It's the transition from Harvey remnants to full blown major hurricane in Gulf over 72hrs. Mesmerising and pretty frightening at the same time.
 https://twitter.com/EverythingWX/status/901344799084687364


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#7735 Postby Hurricane Andrew » Thu Aug 31, 2017 12:06 am

Again guys, if you can pop on and help with ticket verification for the CN, please do. We have a lot to sort through.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#7736 Postby sphelps8681 » Thu Aug 31, 2017 12:16 am

Very terrible for Lumberton, Tx and surrounding areas. We have had constant steady rain since Saturday evening. Freeways with all lanes coming and going are covered with water covering the concrete barriers that separate the lanes going in North, South or East, West in some spots. They literally had white caps in the waves that covered the freeways in certain spots. Look like a lake across the entire freeway. Those freeways are closed coming and going from Lumberton. We are so cutoff. Rescues happening throughout the day. Read today that the release of Dam B up North could cause us problems with water in the up coming days slowing down the rate of water receding. Not sure if this is true. Neighborhoods flooded that have never flooded before. Southerngale I hope everything is ok. A woman in our area got in the flood waters with her three year old in a car and got out. She drowned but her baby was found wrapped around her mother still alive. So sad. Bayous, creeks and streams have flooded the area that has not flooded for more than 30 years.
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#7737 Postby Hurricane Andrew » Thu Aug 31, 2017 12:51 am

Do we know of any shelters or places to stay on the west side of Beaumont? I have a guy who's been running for 48+ hours...he needs some sleep.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#7738 Postby PaulR » Thu Aug 31, 2017 12:51 am

BZSTORM wrote:Although this is 4 days old and I apologize if it was posted back at the time and I'm repeating it, I haven't seen this before today. It's the transition from Harvey remnants to full blown major hurricane in Gulf over 72hrs. Mesmerising and pretty frightening at the same time.
 https://twitter.com/EverythingWX/status/901344799084687364




Holy Crap! It looks like not much of anything, and then just takes off.
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#7739 Postby PaulR » Thu Aug 31, 2017 12:58 am

BZSTORM wrote:Although this is 4 days old and I apologize if it was posted back at the time and I'm repeating it, I haven't seen this before today. It's the transition from Harvey remnants to full blown major hurricane in Gulf over 72hrs. Mesmerising and pretty frightening at the same time.
 https://twitter.com/EverythingWX/status/901344799084687364




Is it possible someone can post that here as a gif for easy saving?
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#7740 Postby PaulR » Thu Aug 31, 2017 1:08 am

sphelps8681 wrote:Very terrible for Lumberton, Tx and surrounding areas. We have had constant steady rain since Saturday evening. Freeways with all lanes coming and going are covered with water covering the concrete barriers that separate the lanes going in North, South or East, West in some spots. They literally had white caps in the waves that covered the freeways in certain spots. Look like a lake across the entire freeway. Those freeways are closed coming and going from Lumberton. We are so cutoff. Rescues happening throughout the day. Read today that the release of Dam B up North could cause us problems with water in the up coming days slowing down the rate of water receding. Not sure if this is true. Neighborhoods flooded that have never flooded before. Southerngale I hope everything is ok. A woman in our area got in the flood waters with her three year old in a car and got out. She drowned but her baby was found wrapped around her mother still alive. So sad. Bayous, creeks and streams have flooded the area that has not flooded for more than 30 years.


More prayers needed, for sure...

We have friends in Lumberton. Better check with them again - my wife has them in her Facebook. All was ok for them a couple days ago. Hope you are ok too!

Info. on Dam B:

http://www.kjas.com/news/local_news/art ... bb46c.html
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