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ATL: HARVEY - Models

#1 Postby cycloneye » Sun Aug 13, 2017 4:58 am

Models runs here.

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GFS 00Z Aug 13: http://i.imgur.com/jVKfNO9.gif
GFS 06Z Aug 13: http://i.imgur.com/jVd6jfw.gif
GFS 12Z Aug 13: http://i.imgur.com/3sLAShk.gif
GFS 18Z Aug 13: http://i.imgur.com/43vAmJw.gif
GFS 00Z Aug 14: http://i.imgur.com/3XMULs1.gif
GFS 06Z Aug 14: http://i.imgur.com/R9Vb8op.gif
GFS 12Z Aug 14: http://i.imgur.com/KiiAjyP.gif
GFS 18Z Aug 14: http://i.imgur.com/BlHrqpe.gif
GFS 00Z Aug 15: http://i.imgur.com/2dyZ6xQ.gif
GFS 06Z Aug 15: http://i.imgur.com/2aBdxih.gif
GFS 12Z Aug 15: http://i.imgur.com/yN6br6o.gif
GFS 18Z Aug 15: http://i.imgur.com/P2PkfbA.gif

ECMWF 00Z Aug 13: http://i.imgur.com/OOw0nII.gif
ECMWF 12Z Aug 13: http://i.imgur.com/LHQKSGv.gif
ECMWF 00Z Aug 14: http://i.imgur.com/RVtQ3KV.gif
ECMWF 12Z Aug 14: http://i.imgur.com/klw1Uq9.gif
ECMWF 00Z Aug 15: http://i.imgur.com/2d4eiAv.gif
ECMWF 12Z Aug 15: http://i.imgur.com/VCTK5fO.gif
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#2 Postby GCANE » Sun Aug 13, 2017 5:05 am

COAMPS has this spending the next day or two coalescing LL convergence and TPW SW of CV islands.
Enthalpy forecast shows an increase in convection around Wednesday 40W.
At this point, it looks like a strong wave all the way into the northern portion of the east Carib.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#3 Postby cycloneye » Sun Aug 13, 2017 5:22 am

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#4 Postby Steve H. » Sun Aug 13, 2017 5:31 am

Early morning snippet from the Melbourne FL NWS FWIW:

While there is a pretty robust signal in the operational models for
a Cabo Verde type tropical cyclone to be moving WNW near of north of
the Greater Antilles early next week (the day 8-10 time frame), it`s
important to note that global model solutions beyond days 5-7 will
frequently show large changes in subsequent runs. There will be many
days to watch and see if these solutions come anywhere close to
fruition. Mid to late August is always a good time for Floridians to
review their hurricane plans and make sure their kits are up to date.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#5 Postby cycloneye » Sun Aug 13, 2017 5:58 am

06z GFS after it moves thru MDR and just north of Puerto Rico,Hispanola and Bahamas makes landfall in the Carolinas.But is long range so stay tuned for changes.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#6 Postby cycloneye » Sun Aug 13, 2017 6:00 am

06z GFS once again begins with the two vorts.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#7 Postby gatorcane » Sun Aug 13, 2017 6:17 am

Looks like the models are hinting at stronger Western Atlantic ridging in the long-range when just yesterday they were showing not much ridging. Just goes to show you can't make any definitive statements on where this might go if it develops in the long-range.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#8 Postby ronjon » Sun Aug 13, 2017 6:31 am

Euro has a tropical storm near S FL at the end of its run. It delays development until the western atlantic, perhaps leading to a more southern solution.

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/?model=ecmwf&region=watl&pkg=mslpa&runtime=2017081300&fh=240&xpos=0&ypos=378
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#9 Postby Kingarabian » Sun Aug 13, 2017 6:33 am

EPS currently has only 5 members showing development.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#10 Postby gatorcane » Sun Aug 13, 2017 6:36 am

ronjon wrote:Euro has a tropical storm near S FL at the end of its run. It delays development until the western atlantic, perhaps leading to a more southern solution.

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/?model=ecmwf&region=watl&pkg=mslpa&runtime=2017081300&fh=240&xpos=0&ypos=378


The 06Z GFS ensembles that just ran have significant shifted more south. Posting one week below but the rest of the run is more south also.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#11 Postby weathaguyry » Sun Aug 13, 2017 6:36 am

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Very interesting that the usually very conservative JMA model develops this a little bit
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#12 Postby Digital-TC-Chaser » Sun Aug 13, 2017 6:36 am

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#13 Postby WAcyclone » Sun Aug 13, 2017 7:23 am

Kingarabian wrote:EPS currently has only 5 members showing development.


While that might be true in the short term (east of the Lesser Antilles), there seems to be some support at day 10 and beyond in the 00z. Especially compared to previous EPS runs. I counted at least 14 members showing development of 91L at 240 hours with 6 of them showing hurricanes (#15, #26, #31, #35, #45, #49) and 2 showing major hurricanes. However, the signal increases quite a bit after 10 days with lots of ensemble members showing major hurricane impacts for the Gulf coast and/or the Florida peninsula. This is a wave to watch IMO...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#14 Postby blp » Sun Aug 13, 2017 7:36 am

UKmet is onboard now. So we got good consensus from the models.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#15 Postby cycloneye » Sun Aug 13, 2017 7:37 am

blp wrote:UKmet is onboard now. So we got good consensus from the models.


Hi my friend. Do you have the graphic or Text?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#16 Postby Siker » Sun Aug 13, 2017 7:37 am

Kingarabian wrote:EPS currently has only 5 members showing development.


Within what range? I'm counting ~15 by the time this is around the Gulf.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#17 Postby Siker » Sun Aug 13, 2017 7:47 am

cycloneye wrote:
blp wrote:UKmet is onboard now. So we got good consensus from the models.


Hi my friend. Do you have the graphic or Text?


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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#18 Postby Ivanhater » Sun Aug 13, 2017 8:05 am

Euro ensembles bringing a hurricane into the Gulf is enough to keep a very close eye on this invest
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#19 Postby GCANE » Sun Aug 13, 2017 8:06 am

Today's 00Z GFS run for Pouch development and tracking.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#20 Postby cycloneye » Sun Aug 13, 2017 8:10 am

12z Tropical Model guidance.

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