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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Discussion

#21 Postby AutoPenalti » Mon Aug 28, 2017 10:52 am

ForeverFlorida90s wrote:Is it weird that I like hurricanes so much that I hope and look forward to Them coming my way they are just so beautiful and interesting

Not necessarily, there's a lot of people that are adrenaline junkies when it comes to hurricanes making landfall. It's seeing how weather can cause such vast destruction that makes you go "Wow!" and, I feel because of this, we can learn from structural mistakes and improve it in the future. That's how I see it at least.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Discussion

#22 Postby ForeverFlorida90s » Mon Aug 28, 2017 11:14 am

AutoPenalti wrote:
ForeverFlorida90s wrote:Is it weird that I like hurricanes so much that I hope and look forward to Them coming my way they are just so beautiful and interesting

Not necessarily, there's a lot of people that are adrenaline junkies when it comes to hurricanes making landfall. It's seeing how weather can cause such vast destruction that makes you go "Wow!" and, I feel because of this, we can learn from structural mistakes and improve it in the future. That's how I see it at least.



I've always loved severe weather just drawn to it I'm 23 now and every job I work im unhappy because I love weather that's where my heart is and I would do it for free
I even quit my job last year to chase Hurricane Matthew when it was approaching our coastline. I hope for Hurricanes because I love and respect them I'm sure there's some people here who feel this way to.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Discussion

#23 Postby AutoPenalti » Mon Aug 28, 2017 11:22 am

ForeverFlorida90s wrote:
AutoPenalti wrote:
ForeverFlorida90s wrote:Is it weird that I like hurricanes so much that I hope and look forward to Them coming my way they are just so beautiful and interesting

Not necessarily, there's a lot of people that are adrenaline junkies when it comes to hurricanes making landfall. It's seeing how weather can cause such vast destruction that makes you go "Wow!" and, I feel because of this, we can learn from structural mistakes and improve it in the future. That's how I see it at least.



I've always loved severe weather just drawn to it I'm 23 now and every job I work im unhappy because I love weather that's where my heart is and I would do it for free
I even quit my job last year to chase Hurricane Matthew when it was approaching our coastline. I hope for Hurricanes because I love and respect them I'm sure there's some people here who feel this way to.

You could always study to become a MET. I love tracking canes but I lack the proper knowledge to fully understand how they work and how weather patterns affect movement and velocity. I'm just a 20 year old with limited knowledge but after joining this board I seem to learn a hell of a lot, and it's thanks to the mets on here.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Discussion

#24 Postby Kazmit » Mon Aug 28, 2017 11:23 am

I just hope this develops in the MDR so that we don't have to wait 3 weeks until it's named! A powerful MDR hurricane that affects no land would be nice.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Discussion

#25 Postby chaser1 » Mon Aug 28, 2017 11:42 am

ForeverFlorida90s wrote:
RL3AO wrote:
ForeverFlorida90s wrote:Is it weird that I like hurricanes so much that I hope and look forward to Them coming my way they are just so beautiful and interesting


I personally don't care if you want Florida to be hit by a strong hurricane. I know you have no control over that occurring. However, posts like that will lead to heated responses to you which will take the thread off topic. Therefore, we don't allow posts that wish for major hurricanes to hit land.

I understand so I'll just watch and wait patiently since that's all I can do


Perhaps a separate thread could be initiated but it's not unnatural for humans to be fascinated with those things larger and greater than ourselves. It is the yearning to "know", the "want to know why", and to explore and experience the unknown..... to boldly go where no man has gone before, Space-the final frontier (but I digress :wink: ). Unfortunately there is such a fine line between seeing, watching, being mesmerized, perhaps even "inconvenienced" a little bit and then simply dust ourselves off and just move on........ VERSES the anticipation of watching an event unfold, then conditions changing from "cool" to "scary", then "scary to deadly", then the realization of losing your prized possessions, your only home, the comfort of being warm (or cool when its sweltering outside), having privacy, no cell phone... or water.... , pets missing, and the potential suffering of finding out that someone we knew (or a friend or family member) was seriously hurt or even killed. Truth is, box-office sales have proven that we are fascinated by our own fragile existence be it alien invasions, ghosts and spirits, mega storms, killer asteroids, or zombie apocalypses LOL. Our human nature nearly begs for us to be taken to the brink, but thereafter happily return to the cozy camp fire where we can all sing kumbaya together eat smores, and return to work the next day so we may continue to pay our mortgage, car payment, have electricity and buy food. Being homeless and starved for a day or two tends to make most people grumpy. Don't ever be ashamed for your fascination with science. Many of us here share that fascination and awe. Simply be cognitive and sensitive how you express yourself and of those around you. DO tread carefully among those who are living their nightmare, mourning, in pain, and in need of help. Chances are that here in this forum, you'll likely come across plenty of both.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Discussion

#26 Postby cycloneye » Mon Aug 28, 2017 12:18 pm

The Saharan dust is not going to be a negative factor for this invest.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Discussion

#27 Postby cycloneye » Mon Aug 28, 2017 12:48 pm

2 PM TWO up to 40%-80%

A tropical wave and associated low pressure area located a few
hundred miles southeast of the Cabo Verde Islands is producing
disorganized showers and thunderstorms. Environmental conditions
are conducive for development, and a tropical depression could form
in two or three days over the eastern Atlantic. The low is forecast
to move westward at 15 to 20 mph over the tropical Atlantic during
the next several days. Regardless of development, heavy rain is
possible in portions of the Cabo Verde Islands through Wednesday.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...medium...40 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...high...80 percent.


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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Discussion: 2 PM TWO up to 40%/80%

#28 Postby Blown Away » Mon Aug 28, 2017 12:56 pm

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Good looking TW... What will future hold for 93L as Irma or likely Jose...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Discussion: 2 PM TWO up to 40%/80%

#29 Postby HurricaneAce » Mon Aug 28, 2017 1:12 pm

So tw's becoming stronger as hurricane season is nearing it's peak. So are there any trends showing another US landfall?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Discussion

#30 Postby cycloneye » Mon Aug 28, 2017 2:01 pm

18z Best Track:

Location: 12.0°N 21.5°W
Maximum Winds: 25 kt Gusts: N/A
Minimum Central Pressure: 1008 mb
Environmental Pressure: 1011 mb
Radius of Circulation: 200 NM
Radius of Maximum Wind: 60 NM


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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Discussion

#31 Postby Blinhart » Mon Aug 28, 2017 2:14 pm

All I have to say is it needs to stay out to sea.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Discussion

#32 Postby KWT » Mon Aug 28, 2017 2:18 pm

Looking like another classic looking wave. The models swing the vortex up and around towards 15N pretty rapidly, that will be the first thing to look out for. The further north it sets up the more likely its going to recurve, at this time of year we are getting towards the back end of long lasting CV waves making the trek from Africa to USA (I'd say any wave leaving now will get to the US near the 10th, so by that time its not impossible to get a strong trough digging down, though I'd argue the GFS is being overzealous right now.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Discussion

#33 Postby cycloneye » Mon Aug 28, 2017 2:59 pm

For Nimbus,Invest that gave birth to Harvey was at the same latitude as 93L is now.First Best Track below.

AL, 09, 2017081312, , BEST, 0, 120N, 274W, 25, 1010, DB
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Discussion

#34 Postby Happy Pelican » Mon Aug 28, 2017 3:26 pm

ForeverFlorida90s wrote:Is it weird that I like hurricanes so much that I hope and look forward to Them coming my way they are just so beautiful and interesting



Not weird but given the current situation with Harvey and past disaster victims losing everything to hurricanes (myself included) maybe keep this to yourself.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Discussion

#35 Postby Hammy » Mon Aug 28, 2017 3:35 pm

cycloneye wrote:The Saharan dust is not going to be a negative factor for this invest.


Was the SAL the primary reason that Gert, Harvey, and 92L failed to develop sooner than they did?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Discussion

#36 Postby Happy Pelican » Mon Aug 28, 2017 3:37 pm

Hammy wrote:
cycloneye wrote:The Saharan dust is not going to be a negative factor for this invest.


Was the SAL the primary reason that Gert, Harvey, and 92L failed to develop sooner than they did?


Was wondering the same thing?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Discussion

#37 Postby galaxy401 » Mon Aug 28, 2017 3:38 pm

Happy Pelican wrote:
Hammy wrote:
cycloneye wrote:The Saharan dust is not going to be a negative factor for this invest.


Was the SAL the primary reason that Gert, Harvey, and 92L failed to develop sooner than they did?


Was wondering the same thing?


SAL was certainly a big factor in that. Back when 92L and pre-Harvey were in the MDR, there was dry air everywhere.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Discussion

#38 Postby Happy Pelican » Mon Aug 28, 2017 3:39 pm

galaxy401 wrote:
Happy Pelican wrote:
Hammy wrote:
Was the SAL the primary reason that Gert, Harvey, and 92L failed to develop sooner than they did?


Was wondering the same thing?


SAL was certainly a big factor in that. Back when 92L and pre-Harvey were in the MDR, there was dry air everywhere.


Thank you. I knew I remembered reading that and assumed that's what was upping the shear but wanted to be positive. Thanks again.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Discussion

#39 Postby Kingarabian » Mon Aug 28, 2017 3:41 pm

Didn't we have like a TUTT and a couple of ULL's spearing them as well?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Discussion

#40 Postby AutoPenalti » Mon Aug 28, 2017 3:44 pm

Kingarabian wrote:Didn't we have like a TUTT and a couple of ULL's spearing them as well?

92L was primarily the one that got hit bad by both dry air the choo-chooing ULL's and TUTT's.

Harvey had moderate shear and proximity to land in the BoC but then once it entered the gulf, the rest is history.
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