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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#10181 Postby NDG » Sun Sep 10, 2017 2:49 pm

GBPackMan wrote:Looks like that cooler drier air from that trough is being sucked in and the Naples landfall is reducing its strength fairly quickly. Still a wind and rain event across the entire state, but much less than what it looked like 24-48 hours ago.


No is not, it has had a dry slot on the southern quadrant of the eye ever since it left the coast of Cuba.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#10182 Postby Nimbus » Sun Sep 10, 2017 4:18 pm

Maybe the 18Z GFS will have a correct track at 12 hrs within 10 miles?
Orlando needs to know..
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#10183 Postby Otown_Wx » Sun Sep 10, 2017 4:32 pm

Nimbus wrote:Maybe the 18Z GFS will have a correct track at 12 hrs within 10 miles?
Orlando needs to know..


Tom Terry from WFTV said the same thing right now. That hurricane ATM moving due north and it has to start moving a bit west of north soon or else it will miss next forecasted point
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#10184 Postby Blown Away » Sun Sep 10, 2017 7:18 pm

Otown_Wx wrote:
Nimbus wrote:Maybe the 18Z GFS will have a correct track at 12 hrs within 10 miles?
Orlando needs to know..


Tom Terry from WFTV said the same thing right now. That hurricane ATM moving due north and it has to start moving a bit west of north soon or else it will miss next forecasted point


I guess the GFS & Ukmet get credit for this current E of track movement... Theme for the past 24 hours, the NHC on the W side of spaghetti plots...
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#10185 Postby TheBigO » Sun Sep 10, 2017 8:28 pm

Any new model runs coming up? Tony Mainolfi at WESH here in Orlando seems to be unilaterally saying the eye is going to hit central Florida, specifically the Orlando metro area. Would like to see something more objective from a model first. Don't see a shift from the NHC track yet either.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#10186 Postby rickybobby » Sun Sep 10, 2017 8:46 pm

A few people in fb are saying it's moving nne now.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#10187 Postby Hurricane Andrew » Sun Sep 10, 2017 9:06 pm

rickybobby wrote:A few people in fb are saying it's moving nne now.

This thing must still have a sustained hurricane force wind core, correct?
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#10188 Postby tolakram » Sun Sep 10, 2017 9:25 pm

TheBigO wrote:Any new model runs coming up? Tony Mainolfi at WESH here in Orlando seems to be unilaterally saying the eye is going to hit central Florida, specifically the Orlando metro area. Would like to see something more objective from a model first. Don't see a shift from the NHC track yet either.


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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#10189 Postby dspguy » Mon Sep 11, 2017 12:12 am

Can someone explain the difference between the:

GFS MSLP (mb) and 10m wind speed chart

and the

GFS 850 hpa height dam chart?

Specifically, why does the former show much less wind speed than the latter for the same area? Is it simply the height at which this wind is to be expected? Meaning at ground level, look at the 10m chart? Or is 10m the 10 MINUTE? chart not the 10 meter chart?
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#10190 Postby terstorm1012 » Mon Sep 11, 2017 7:17 am

dspguy wrote:Can someone explain the difference between the:

GFS MSLP (mb) and 10m wind speed chart

and the

GFS 850 hpa height dam chart?

Specifically, why does the former show much less wind speed than the latter for the same area? Is it simply the height at which this wind is to be expected? Meaning at ground level, look at the 10m chart? Or is 10m the 10 MINUTE? chart not the 10 meter chart?


MSLP=Mean Sea Level Pressure
10m would mean 10 meters

850mb level is approximately 5,000 feet up (I think, don't quote me on that)
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#10191 Postby dspguy » Mon Sep 11, 2017 9:51 am

terstorm1012 wrote:850mb level is approximately 5,000 feet up (I think, don't quote me on that)


So the average lay person doesn't really care what the 5,000 ft values are since we wouldn't see them at ground level?
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#10192 Postby terstorm1012 » Mon Sep 11, 2017 9:56 am

dspguy wrote:
So the average lay person doesn't really care what the 5,000 ft values are since we wouldn't see them at ground level?

sometimes those winds at 5,000 ft can mix down to the surface. the 850mb is still a useful chart.

500mb is even more useful if you want to see steering currents and whatnot.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#10193 Postby Sanibel » Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:59 pm

GFS was too far east for most of Irma except for the last most important run where it nailed the east jog after landfall...
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#10194 Postby Digital-TC-Chaser » Thu Sep 14, 2017 3:16 am

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