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Re: ATL: JOSE - Models

#561 Postby Airboy » Fri Sep 15, 2017 1:27 pm

EquusStorm wrote:I'd hope that's hour 174, if Jose is still going in 174 days I think we're going to see some forecasters quit and we would rename the Atlantic "Jose's Back Yard" :D



ops...haha :D
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Re: ATL: JOSE - Models

#562 Postby RL3AO » Fri Sep 15, 2017 1:36 pm

Thos UKMet forecasts that brought this to Florida are really starting to hurt it's stats now.

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Re: ATL: JOSE - Models

#563 Postby Ken711 » Fri Sep 15, 2017 1:36 pm

Euro 12z looks east this run.
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Re: ATL: JOSE - Models

#564 Postby xironman » Fri Sep 15, 2017 1:38 pm

Ken711 wrote:Euro 12z looks east this run.


Starts east, goes west, then goes into an anticyclonic loop. Seems the models are clueless beyond 3 days which makes sense since the synoptics are pretty flat.
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Re: ATL: JOSE - Models

#565 Postby BobHarlem » Fri Sep 15, 2017 1:47 pm

What in blazes is the Euro doing with Jose and future Maria and Lee all fairly close? i have no idea what to make of that.
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Re: ATL: JOSE - Models

#566 Postby xironman » Fri Sep 15, 2017 1:56 pm

BobHarlem wrote:What in blazes is the Euro doing with Jose and future Maria and Lee all fairly close? i have no idea what to make of that.


Weak steering currents. On the upside we could see Fujiwhara effect on the east coast in 10 days, so there is that.

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Re: ATL: JOSE - Models

#567 Postby jabman98 » Fri Sep 15, 2017 2:51 pm

Ken711 wrote:Looks like UKMET shifted east again.

Dang. The UKMET has been all over the place. West outlier bringing Jose across Florida to about New Orleans. Then east, east, east.

What is it that's making it hard for the models to figure out what Jose is doing? I know there's more agreement now, but a day or so ago they were all over the place.
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Re: ATL: JOSE - Models

#568 Postby weathaguyry » Fri Sep 15, 2017 2:55 pm

jabman98 wrote:
Ken711 wrote:Looks like UKMET shifted east again.

Dang. The UKMET has been all over the place. West outlier bringing Jose across Florida to about New Orleans. Then east, east, east.

What is it that's making it hard for the models to figure out what Jose is doing? I know there's more agreement now, but a day or so ago they were all over the place.


I believe it is because the steering pattern is fairly complex once it gets closer to New England, there are a few different areas of high pressure, and it depends on which area dominates
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Re: ATL: JOSE - Models

#569 Postby jabman98 » Fri Sep 15, 2017 3:12 pm

weathaguyry wrote:
jabman98 wrote:
Ken711 wrote:Looks like UKMET shifted east again.

Dang. The UKMET has been all over the place. West outlier bringing Jose across Florida to about New Orleans. Then east, east, east.

What is it that's making it hard for the models to figure out what Jose is doing? I know there's more agreement now, but a day or so ago they were all over the place.


I believe it is because the steering pattern is fairly complex once it gets closer to New England, there are a few different areas of high pressure, and it depends on which area dominates

That would be my guess. It's just been interesting to watch the models flip all over the place over the last few days.
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Re: ATL: JOSE - Models

#570 Postby xironman » Fri Sep 15, 2017 4:48 pm

I'm going with NJ

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Re: ATL: JOSE - Models

#571 Postby xironman » Fri Sep 15, 2017 5:01 pm

Four days until a decent 'cane approaches the megalopolis

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Re: ATL: JOSE - Models

#572 Postby johngaltfla » Fri Sep 15, 2017 5:46 pm

xironman wrote:Four days until a decent 'cane approaches the megalopolis

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We are going to run out of major cities to freak out at this pace. :eek:
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Re: ATL: JOSE - Models

#573 Postby GCANE » Fri Sep 15, 2017 5:50 pm

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Re: ATL: JOSE - Models

#574 Postby jabman98 » Fri Sep 15, 2017 6:26 pm

xironman wrote:Four days until a decent 'cane approaches the megalopolis

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:eek: That's impressive looking. I bet some folks in the NE are going to be getting a bit nervous.
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Re: ATL: JOSE - Models

#575 Postby ColdMiser123 » Fri Sep 15, 2017 6:52 pm

GEFS are pretty aggressive.

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Re: ATL: JOSE - Models

#576 Postby Hybridstorm_November2001 » Fri Sep 15, 2017 6:58 pm

The thing about these models plots, I wonder what the thermal profile of the storm is by the time it reaches the NE? Meaning is Jose extratropical, subtropical or even fully extratropical by then. Each possibility would produce a different wind & rain outcome for the region.
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Re: ATL: JOSE - Models

#577 Postby ColdMiser123 » Fri Sep 15, 2017 7:03 pm

The 12z GFS was too far NE with the short term trend compared to observations.

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Re: ATL: JOSE - Models

#578 Postby CrazyC83 » Fri Sep 15, 2017 7:59 pm

Hybridstorm_November2001 wrote:The thing about these models plots, I wonder what the thermal profile of the storm is by the time it reaches the NE? Meaning is Jose extratropical, subtropical or even fully extratropical by then. Each possibility would produce a different wind & rain outcome for the region.


GFS keeps it fully tropical, but that may be overdone.
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Re: ATL: JOSE - Models

#579 Postby txwatcher91 » Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:16 pm

18z GEFS was quite a bit west of the 12z run. It seems like Jose has stalled so I’m not sure how that will effect the track, if any.
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Re: ATL: JOSE - Models

#580 Postby StormTracker » Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:18 pm

clipper35 wrote:
hohnywx wrote:
clipper35 wrote:WOW, very quiet in this thread considering we have small threat to the midatlantic and north east states.


It's not FL, so no one is posting. A shame.

GFS has initialized and appears to be NE of the 6z position currently.

that sums it up, should of guessed that was the problem.

Did it ever occur to you that a lot of us in Florida still are without electricity and or internet? My apologies MODS! Now, back to the models...ST
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