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WPAC: DOKSURI - Post-Tropical

#1 Postby euro6208 » Sun Sep 10, 2017 1:53 am

AN AREA OF CONVECTION HAS PERSISTED NEAR 13.7N 129.2E,
APPROXIMATELY 480 NM EAST OF MANILA, PHILIPPINES . ANIMATED
ENHANCED INFRARED SATELLITE IMAGERY AND A 100040Z MHS 89GHZ
MICROWAVE IMAGE DEPICT A SHALLOW DISORGANIZED LOW LEVEL CIRCULATION
CENTER (LLCC) WITH THE MAJORITY OF THE CONVECTION LOCATED IN THE
SOUTHERN PERIPHERY. A 100041Z METOP-B ASCAT PASS INDICATES A WEAK,
ELONGATED CIRCULATION WITH STRONGER WINDS (15-20 KNOTS) LOCATED TO
THE NORTH. UPPER LEVEL ANALYSIS REVEALS WEAK DIFFLUENT OUTFLOW AND
MODERATE VERTICAL WIND SHEAR (15-20 KNOTS) WITH FAVORABLE SEA
SURFACE TEMPERATURES (28-30 CELSIUS). GLOBAL MODELS ARE IN GENERAL
AGREEMENT THAT THE DISTURBANCE WILL TRACK TO THE WEST-NORTHWEST
WITH SLOW DEVELOPMENT. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED SURFACE WINDS ARE
ESTIMATED AT 15 TO 20 KNOTS. MINIMUM SEA LEVEL PRESSURE IS
ESTIMATED TO BE NEAR 1006 MB. THE POTENTIAL FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF
A SIGNIFICANT TROPICAL CYCLONE WITHIN THE NEXT 24 HOURS IS LOW.
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Re: WPAC: INVEST 97W

#2 Postby SuperMarioBros99thx » Sun Sep 10, 2017 3:01 am

If this can survive the influence of Talim this can develop into Doksuri and might detected by PAGASA as Maring.
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Re: WPAC: INVEST 97W

#3 Postby doomhaMwx » Sun Sep 10, 2017 3:04 am

97W INVEST 170910 0600 14.0N 128.3E WPAC 20 1007

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Re: WPAC: INVEST 97W

#4 Postby doomhaMwx » Sun Sep 10, 2017 3:24 am

Models are split regarding the future of this disturbance, with some(including ECMWF) showing a weak system hitting Luzon tomorrow or on Tuesday then emerging into the South China Sea... GFS and some other models indicate dissipation east of Luzon due to the presence of Tropical Cyclone Talim, probably being sheared and/or being absorbed by it...

If 97W manages to emerge into the South China Sea, environmental conditions there could be favorable to allow some additional organization/strengthening..
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Re: WPAC: INVEST 97W

#5 Postby doomhaMwx » Sun Sep 10, 2017 3:31 am

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Metop-A ASCAT pass in the morning showed a closed/well-defined circulation with the strongest winds(20-25kts) found in the periphery of the circulation's eastern half, but winds near the LLCC were still very weak...
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Re: WPAC: INVEST 97W

#6 Postby SuperMarioBros99thx » Sun Sep 10, 2017 6:49 am

Imran_doomhaMwx wrote:Models are split regarding the future of this disturbance, with some(including ECMWF) showing a weak system hitting Luzon tomorrow or on Tuesday then emerging into the South China Sea... GFS and some other models indicate dissipation east of Luzon due to the presence of Tropical Cyclone Talim, probably being sheared and/or being absorbed by it...

If 97W manages to emerge into the South China Sea, environmental conditions there could be favorable to allow some additional organization/strengthening..

I am calling that since Euro generally the most accurate models in the WPAC, i'm thinking this would make it to SCS regardless.
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Re: WPAC: INVEST 97W

#7 Postby euro6208 » Sun Sep 10, 2017 7:43 am

Imran_doomhaMwx wrote:
Metop-A ASCAT pass in the morning showed a closed/well-defined circulation with the strongest winds(20-25kts) found in the periphery of the circulation's eastern half, but winds near the LLCC were still very weak...


Isn't that how it is? I know in the Atlantic the LLCC can be completely devoid of any convection but it's the convection that matters.
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Re: WPAC: INVEST 97W

#8 Postby euro6208 » Sun Sep 10, 2017 7:44 am

Well the EURO was excited about this but no longer. The other global models aren't too happy about it either.
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Re: WPAC: INVEST 97W

#9 Postby euro6208 » Sun Sep 10, 2017 7:52 am

HWRF on the other hand strengthens this into a Category 3 and interacts it with Talim.
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Re: WPAC: INVEST 97W

#10 Postby euro6208 » Sun Sep 10, 2017 4:22 pm

THE AREA OF CONVECTION (INVEST 97W) PREVIOUSLY LOCATED
NEAR 13.7N 129.2E, IS NOW LOCATED NEAR 14.6N 127E, APPROXIMATELY
349 NM EAST OF MANILA, PHILIPPINES. ANIMATED ENHANCED INFRARED
SATELLITE IMAGERY AND A 101328Z PARTIAL AMSU METOP-B IMAGE REVEAL
CURVED BANDING WRAPPING ALONG THE WESTERN SEMICIRCLE OF THE BROAD
LOW LEVEL CIRCULATION CENTER (LLCC), WITH THE MAJORITY OF THE
CONVECTION LOCATED IN THE SOUTHERN PERIPHERY. A 101329Z METOP-B
ASCAT PASS INDICATES GRADIENT FLOW TO THE NORTH HAS BEEN BUILDING,
HOWEVER 101335Z ASCAT IMAGE SHOWS THAT THE LLCC REMAINS BROAD AND
ELONGATED. UPPER LEVEL ANALYSIS REVEALS DECENT DIFFLUENT OUTFLOW
AND FAVORABLE VERTICAL WIND SHEAR (10-15 KNOTS), WITH FAVORABLE SEA
SURFACE TEMPERATURES (30-32 CELSIUS). GLOBAL MODELS ARE IN GENERAL
AGREEMENT THAT THE DISTURBANCE WILL TRACK TO THE WEST-NORTHWEST
WITH SLOW DEVELOPMENT. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED SURFACE WINDS ARE
ESTIMATED AT 15 TO 20 KNOTS. MINIMUM SEA LEVEL PRESSURE IS
ESTIMATED TO BE NEAR 1005 MB. DUE TO INCREASING GRADIENT FLOW AND
SLOW CONSOLIDATION, THE POTENTIAL FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF
A SIGNIFICANT TROPICAL CYCLONE WITHIN THE NEXT 24 HOURS IS UPGRADED
TO MEDIUM.
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Re: WPAC: INVEST 97W

#11 Postby mrbagyo » Sun Sep 10, 2017 5:59 pm

Big blob of intense convection is moving west.
If it stays intense and reach Manila - gonna be a quite a rain event.
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Re: WPAC: INVEST 97W

#12 Postby dexterlabio » Sun Sep 10, 2017 9:42 pm

JMA now expects a named tropical storm within 24 hours.
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Re: WPAC: INVEST 97W

#13 Postby mrbagyo » Sun Sep 10, 2017 10:31 pm

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totally exposed - but it will keep pumping the sheared convection towards Luzon. Serious rain threat
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Re: WPAC: INVEST 97W

#14 Postby mrbagyo » Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:23 am

PAGASA just upgraded this system into Tropical Depression MARING.
Same name used for Tropical Storm Trami in 2013 that caused extensive flooding in Luzon.
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Re: WPAC: INVEST 97W

#15 Postby tatlopuyo » Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:54 am

How much rain and wind are we expecting in the ncr area?
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Re: WPAC: INVEST 97W

#16 Postby doomhaMwx » Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:22 am

Has been moving generally westwards, and models have come into better agreement that this will hit Luzon instead of moving north and being absorbed by Typhoon Talim...

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GFS and ECMWF models also indicating further intensification over the South China Sea...

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Re: WPAC: INVEST 97W

#17 Postby doomhaMwx » Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:31 am

Not looking good! The ECMWF and GFS models are predicting high rainfall accumulations of up to 250mm(10in) in many parts of Central and Southern Luzon including Manila, with isolated totals of 300mm(12in) or more, within the next 36hrs(today to tomorrow, PhT)! People in these areas should be alert for potential severe flooding and mud/landslides...

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Re: WPAC: INVEST 97W

#18 Postby mrbagyo » Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:44 am

Imran_doomhaMwx wrote:Not looking good! The ECMWF and GFS models are predicting high rainfall accumulations of up to 250mm(10in) in many parts of Central and Southern Luzon including Manila, with isolated totals of 300mm(12in) or more, within the next 36hrs(today to tomorrow, PhT)! People in these areas should be alert for potential severe flooding and mud/landslides...

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That's almost a month worth of rain
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Re: WPAC: INVEST 97W

#19 Postby ejeraldmc » Mon Sep 11, 2017 6:25 am

The convection doesn't look good though
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Re: WPAC: INVEST 97W

#20 Postby euro6208 » Mon Sep 11, 2017 6:51 am

THE AREA OF CONVECTION PREVIOUSLY LOCATED NEAR 13.7N
129.2E, IS NOW LOCATED NEAR 14.6N 126.2E, APPROXIMATELY 300 NM EAST
OF MANILA, PHILIPPINES. ANIMATED MULTISPECTRAL SATELLITE IMAGERY
STILL DEPICTS A BROAD AND ELONGATED LOW LEVEL CIRCULATION CENTER
(LLCC). A 110106Z METOP-A 89 GHZ IMAGE REVEALS CURVED BANDING
WRAPPING ALONG THE WESTERN SEMI-CIRCLE WITH THE MAJORITY OF THE
CONVECTION LOCATED IN THE WESTERN PERIPHERY. UPPER LEVEL ANALYSIS
SHOWS DECENT DIFFLUENT OUTFLOW AND MODERATE VERTICAL WIND SHEAR (15-
20 KNOTS), WITH FAVORABLE SEA SURFACE TEMPERATURES (30-32 CELSIUS).
GLOBAL MODELS ARE IN GENERAL AGREEMENT THAT THE DISTURBANCE WILL
TRACK TO THE WEST-NORTHWEST WITH SLOW DEVELOPMENT. MAXIMUM
SUSTAINED SURFACE WINDS ARE ESTIMATED AT 15 TO 20 KNOTS. MINIMUM
SEA LEVEL PRESSURE IS ESTIMATED TO BE NEAR 1006 MB. THE POTENTIAL
FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF A SIGNIFICANT TROPICAL CYCLONE WITHIN THE
NEXT 24 HOURS REMAINS MEDIUM.
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