ATL: LEE - Post-Tropical Low - Discussion

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Re: ATL: LEE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#161 Postby storm_in_a_teacup » Sun Sep 24, 2017 3:32 pm

xtyphooncyclonex wrote:After being underestimated and ignored, Lee wrote a song. It's called "Look What You Made Me Do." :lol:

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The funny thing is I myself have given some thought to if hurricanes could perform music, what kind of music would each storm like. Only have done this for storms from decades ago though.

...But in any case he's a smol boi. Though not quite a teacup storm ;)

(Whoops. Harvey made me sad for a while, but now I am back to cracking jokes all the time again. I guess not even my hometown going underwater can change who I am.)
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Re: ATL: LEE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#162 Postby storm_in_a_teacup » Sun Sep 24, 2017 3:38 pm

supercane4867 wrote:2017 is the year of RIs. Even if you thought it was dead and gone, it still comes back alive and RIs. :lol:

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Dammit. I already wasted many hours of my life writing a story about Hurricane Harvey's weird life where it's constantly getting battered and then exploding in intensity and then shortly after being thrown onto land where it then continues clinging onto life somehow. Now you're making me want to do one about Lee.

I swear this season is like a hurricane sports movie or something. Lots of storms that keep fighting back against all odds and coming back from big defeats.

Meanwhile, I'm quite comfortable here in my teacup. I'm not going to develop much, but at least it's always 150 degrees Fahrenheit. 8-)
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#163 Postby EquusStorm » Sun Sep 24, 2017 3:42 pm

New advisory keeps at 80kt and lowers peak slightly.
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...but still, though, a lot more interesting than the 2013 season.

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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#164 Postby TheAustinMan » Sun Sep 24, 2017 4:20 pm

Lee is looking quite well organized with new convective initiation around the eyewall. I'm not entirely convinced of the current Dvorak estimates.
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#165 Postby 1900hurricane » Sun Sep 24, 2017 6:20 pm

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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#166 Postby Hammy » Sun Sep 24, 2017 9:03 pm

:uarrow: That casts some serious doubt on the current intensity estimates.
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#167 Postby 1900hurricane » Sun Sep 24, 2017 9:34 pm

Not far off from becoming embedded in light grey honestly.

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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#168 Postby Hammy » Sun Sep 24, 2017 9:38 pm

NHC kept at 80kt but I'm putting it in my archive at 85kt given the similar appearance to Ivan in 1980 (which was 90kt) though it's probably even higher than that.
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#169 Postby EquusStorm » Sun Sep 24, 2017 9:46 pm

Honestly, I really hope forecasters don't put as much stock in ADT values for these super tiny storms for such reasons, unless there is recon support from previous similar storms. I know high latitude systems seem to look more impressive at lower overall intensities, but structurally this seems way more akin to a 90+ kt storm...
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#170 Postby 1900hurricane » Sun Sep 24, 2017 9:46 pm

The fact that GOES-16 is still getting warmer eye temps than GOES-13 despite a VZA >55º speaks of the satellite's spatial resolution. It also means that the eye is probably a little warmer than either satellite can measure.

For the record, MG CDO w/OW eye and MG or LG ring is a DT of 4.5 (77 kt). LG CDO w/OW eye or a MG CDO w/WMG eye and LG ring is a DT of 5.0 (90 kt). LG CDO w/WMG eye is a DT of 5.5 (102 kt).
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#171 Postby wxmann_91 » Sun Sep 24, 2017 11:01 pm

1900hurricane wrote:T
For the record, MG CDO w/OW eye and MG or LG ring is a DT of 4.5 (77 kt). LG CDO w/OW eye or a MG CDO w/WMG eye and LG ring is a DT of 5.0 (90 kt). LG CDO w/WMG eye is a DT of 5.5 (102 kt).

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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#172 Postby supercane4867 » Sun Sep 24, 2017 11:14 pm

Looks T5.0 worthy to me, assuming the actual eye temp is warmer than GOES-13 shown due to resolution issues.

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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#173 Postby 1900hurricane » Sun Sep 24, 2017 11:21 pm

wxmann_91 wrote:
1900hurricane wrote:T
For the record, MG CDO w/OW eye and MG or LG ring is a DT of 4.5 (77 kt). LG CDO w/OW eye or a MG CDO w/WMG eye and LG ring is a DT of 5.0 (90 kt). LG CDO w/WMG eye is a DT of 5.5 (102 kt).

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Ugh, didn't want to type all that out. :P DT is Data T# from the Dvorak Technique. CDO is Central Dense Overcast (though you know that one, but others may not). All the others are colors on the Basic Dvorak (BD) enhanced infrared color curve. In order from warmest to coldest, WMG is warm medium grey, OW is off-white, DG is dark grey, MG is medium grey, LG is light grey, B is black, W is white, CMG is cold medium grey, and CDG is cold dark grey. I mentioned WMG, OW, MG, and LG above. If you want to derive a DT using the Dvorak Technique's eye pattern, here's how to do it:

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And here are the corresponding intensities:

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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#174 Postby EquusStorm » Sun Sep 24, 2017 11:28 pm

Let's take a moment to admire one of the weirdest wind speed history graphics we've seen in a good while...

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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#175 Postby storm_in_a_teacup » Mon Sep 25, 2017 12:23 am

EquusStorm wrote:Let's take a moment to admire one of the weirdest wind speed history graphics we've seen in a good while...

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I think I saw an advisory refer to the storm as "Tiny Lee."
That's it. I'm appending "Tiny" to the name from now on.
...Can you call a storm cute?
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#176 Postby aperson » Mon Sep 25, 2017 12:46 am

Looks like Lee is fetching some more water vapor and becoming a bit less smol, upgrade from nanocane to microcane?

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/floater ... -long.html
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#177 Postby EquusStorm » Mon Sep 25, 2017 1:22 am

Well, by official advisory, Lee has higher winds now than Maria. I suspect it has for most of the day in reality though.
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#178 Postby Sciencerocks » Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:57 am

Looks to be about 90knts...Small pin hole eye with nearly perfect cdo.

Could argue for 95knt?
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#179 Postby abajan » Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:45 am

storm_in_a_teacup wrote:
EquusStorm wrote:Let's take a moment to admire one of the weirdest wind speed history graphics we've seen in a good while...

[img]https://walkercountytornadoes.files.wordpress.com/2017/09/023913_wind_history.png[img]


I think I saw an advisory refer to the storm as "Tiny Lee."
That's it. I'm appending "Tiny" to the name from now on.
...Can you call a storm cute?

And if it hits Cat 3, we'll all proclaim that Lee Majors. :lol:
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#180 Postby tolakram » Mon Sep 25, 2017 7:24 am

Bionic Lee!
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