ATL: ALBERTO - Post-Tropical

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Re: ATL: ALBERTO - Sub-Tropical Storm

#1901 Postby boca » Sat May 26, 2018 10:36 pm

Evil Jeremy wrote:
boca wrote:Wouldn’t it be ironic if the GFS was right and this cuts across Florida and out passed Jacksonville after all.


How's your Monday BBQ looking?


Not very good ha ha
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Re: ATL: ALBERTO - Sub-Tropical Storm

#1902 Postby SeaBrz_FL » Sat May 26, 2018 10:37 pm

boca wrote:Wouldn’t it be ironic if the GFS was right and this cuts across Florida and out passed Jacksonville after all.


Praying it's not true, but it's happened in the past with storms starting where Alberto has:

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Re: ATL: ALBERTO - Models

#1903 Postby AdamFirst » Sat May 26, 2018 10:39 pm

GFS is east of the 18z run so far.
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Re: ATL: ALBERTO - Models

#1904 Postby WeatherEmperor » Sat May 26, 2018 10:39 pm

0z GFS more east closer to Florida compared to 18z.

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Re: ATL: ALBERTO - Models

#1905 Postby Evil Jeremy » Sat May 26, 2018 10:39 pm

This is the farthest east the GFS has been, at every frame through 24 hours, in it's past 8 cycles.
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Re: ATL: ALBERTO - Sub-Tropical Storm

#1906 Postby Twisted-core » Sat May 26, 2018 10:40 pm

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Shear plot suggests to me ALBERTO wont transition to full tropical. However subtropical/hybrid storms
do develop in regions of high wind shear. 50 /55 kt sts at landfall looks reasonable.
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Re: ATL: ALBERTO - Sub-Tropical Storm

#1907 Postby tgenius » Sat May 26, 2018 10:43 pm

That rain that’s about to get to Miami looks to be a doozy! Gonna be raining a good few hours with that one.
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Re: ATL: ALBERTO - Sub-Tropical Storm

#1908 Postby jdjaguar » Sat May 26, 2018 10:43 pm

USTropics wrote:
jdjaguar wrote:
AdamFirst wrote:Anyone have a good site for satellite imagery? The NHC is showing stuff from this afternoon still.

What happened to the NHC satellite feeds?

I've been viewing the various feeds for almost 2 decades.

Why was the decision made to limit the feeds?

Who made that terrible decision?


The NOAA branch NESDIS is responsible for the satellite images seen on the NHC website. It's my understanding the switch between the GOES-16 Satellite and the now retired GOES-13 satellite is the reason, as there needs to be some configuration/work done to remake the GOES-13 sectors for GOES-16. This is the works, but no ETA.

For now, there are plenty of options:
http://weather.cod.edu/satrad/exper/

http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis/online/tropical.asp

http://rammb-slider.cira.colostate.edu/?sat=goes-16&sec=full_disk&x=10848&y=10848&z=0&im=12&ts=1&st=0&et=0&speed=130&motion=loop&map=1&lat=0&p%5B0%5D=16&opacity%5B0%5D=1&hidden%5B0%5D=0&pause=0&slider=-1&hide_controls=0&mouse_draw=0&s=rammb-slider

https://realearth.ssec.wisc.edu/?products=G16-ABI-MESO1-BAND13-GRAD.64&center=18.091746056034697,-66.14764404296872&zoom=9&width=934&height=637&timeproduct=G16-ABI-MESO1-BAND13-GRAD&timespan=-6t&animationspeed=50

https://weather.msfc.nasa.gov/GOES/

http://www.weathernerds.org/satellite/floaters/

http://weather.cod.edu/satrad/

https://atmos.washington.edu/~ovens/loops/wxloop.cgi?wv_east_enhanced+24

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Re: ATL: ALBERTO - Models

#1909 Postby northjaxpro » Sat May 26, 2018 10:45 pm

The 0Z GFS has Alberto into Apalachee Bay within 18-24 hours. That is a significant east shift.
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Re: ATL: ALBERTO - Models

#1910 Postby AdamFirst » Sat May 26, 2018 10:46 pm

GFS landfalls around Destin at hour 42 (18z Monday) at 994~ MB
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Re: ATL: ALBERTO - Sub-Tropical Storm

#1911 Postby AdamFirst » Sat May 26, 2018 10:47 pm

It's hard to tell on infrared satellite sometimes - I'm guessing our center is in this area?

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Re: ATL: ALBERTO - Models

#1912 Postby Alyono » Sat May 26, 2018 10:57 pm

canadian inland near Apalachicola in around 12Z Monday
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Re: ATL: ALBERTO - Sub-Tropical Storm

#1913 Postby northjaxpro » Sat May 26, 2018 11:01 pm

:uarrow: Alberto's coc still moving steadily N/NNE . GFS and UK MET really both handled Alberto very well to this juncture. We still have the end game in terns of landfall to come. However, no question these two models have consistently had the east solutions all week.
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Re: ATL: ALBERTO - Models

#1914 Postby FLpanhandle91 » Sat May 26, 2018 11:04 pm

It seems that Alberto is already moving almost due north on the latest GOES loops. I dont think GFS is picking up on that and is carrying it too far east. Will be curious to see the Euro.
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Re: ATL: ALBERTO - Sub-Tropical Storm

#1915 Postby psyclone » Sat May 26, 2018 11:08 pm

for my money the most impressive feature of this system is the massive feederband off to the east edging toward se florida and back southwest over cuba and on south. Recall the GFS spit out some giant QPF values for se florida a few days ago so depending on how this evolves...it may have been on to something..
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Re: ATL: ALBERTO - Sub-Tropical Storm

#1916 Postby AdamFirst » Sat May 26, 2018 11:11 pm

psyclone wrote:for my money the most impressive feature of this system is the massive feederband off to the east edging toward se florida and back southwest over cuba and on south. Recall the GFS spit out some giant QPF values for se florida a few days ago so depending on how this evolves...it may have been on to something..


The GFS has been on to something overall. Consistently the eastern outlier, and its track - for the near term - seems to be verifying.
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Re: ATL: ALBERTO - Models

#1917 Postby N2FSU » Sat May 26, 2018 11:15 pm

Oz GFS

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Re: ATL: ALBERTO - Sub-Tropical Storm

#1918 Postby MidnightRain » Sat May 26, 2018 11:17 pm

Alberto racing into shear and the cooler side of the Gulf. Convection already warming, may never see a tropical transition.
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Re: ATL: ALBERTO - Models

#1919 Postby bamajammer4eva » Sat May 26, 2018 11:22 pm

Alyono wrote:canadian inland near Apalachicola in around 12Z Monday


Initialization of Canadian also too far west so might would have been even farther East??

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Re: ATL: ALBERTO - Sub-Tropical Storm

#1920 Postby Miami Storm Tracker » Sat May 26, 2018 11:31 pm

Evening all,

Down here in Key Largo. Benn a combination of lite rain the a squall comes in and hear rain since late yesterday. Most of today light rain with a few heavy showers and a bit gusty but nothing to serious.
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