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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#21 Postby mcheer23 » Sun Sep 02, 2018 1:22 pm

EURO still has a turn west....its just further north like 00z..near dallas.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#22 Postby tolakram » Sun Sep 02, 2018 1:54 pm

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#23 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Sun Sep 02, 2018 1:56 pm

BigB0882 wrote:
Shell Mound wrote:
mcheer23 wrote:euro weaker through 48hr....

Respectfully, do you know why? :?: Current trends and conditions do not seem to support the EC...


On the other thread someone said the Euro probably initialized this too weak and that could be because of the compact size. Doesn’t mean the end result is necessarily wrong but it could certainly have implications on final intensity/landfall.


Both Euro and GFS initialized to weak. I could see this being a hurricane at landfall if the shear is low and it gets under the anticyclone some models forecast to form over the EGOM
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ATL: SEVEN - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#24 Postby Bocadude85 » Sun Sep 02, 2018 4:43 pm

The 18z 3km NAM and RGEM are both stronger with the Florida landfall, I know they aren’t tropical models but still interesting.
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ATL: SEVEN - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#25 Postby supercane4867 » Sun Sep 02, 2018 4:45 pm

Bocadude85 wrote:The 18z 3km NAM and RGEM are both stronger with the Florida landfall, I know they aren’t tropical models but still interesting.

NAM is a joke with tropical cyclone. It blew up Alberto to a major in the Gulf.
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Re: ATL: SEVEN - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#26 Postby TorSkk » Sun Sep 02, 2018 4:52 pm

Nam also made Chris a cat 5
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Re: RE: Re: ATL: SEVEN - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#27 Postby jlauderdal » Sun Sep 02, 2018 4:54 pm

supercane4867 wrote:
Bocadude85 wrote:The 18z 3km NAM and RGEM are both stronger with the Florida landfall, I know they aren’t tropical models but still interesting.

NAM is a joke with tropical cyclone. It blew up Alberto to a major in the Gulf.
Dont look at nam for intensity, only for steering

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Re: ATL: SEVEN - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#28 Postby MississippiWx » Sun Sep 02, 2018 4:56 pm

18z GFS hardly makes this into a depression at peak “strength.” Never does consolidate the vort until right before landfall.
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ATL: SEVEN - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#29 Postby Bocadude85 » Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:23 pm

supercane4867 wrote:
Bocadude85 wrote:The 18z 3km NAM and RGEM are both stronger with the Florida landfall, I know they aren’t tropical models but still interesting.

NAM is a joke with tropical cyclone. It blew up Alberto to a major in the Gulf.


Yes I am well aware that the NAM isn’t great with intensity forecasts.
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Re: ATL: SEVEN - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#30 Postby PSUHiker31 » Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:28 pm

The HWRF is about to initialize
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ATL: SEVEN - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#31 Postby NDG » Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:34 pm

Just 84 hrs ago the GFS didn't have anything with 91L, also notice the disturbance over the NW gulf coast. This is one of those systems that will have to be looked at an hour by hour and forget about the models.

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Re: ATL: SEVEN - Models

#32 Postby Blinhart » Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:56 pm

And if this system decides to move just a little bit slower then that West turn will be much further South.
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Re: ATL: SEVEN - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#33 Postby MississippiWx » Sun Sep 02, 2018 6:01 pm

NDG wrote:Just 84 hrs ago the GFS didn't have anything with 91L, also notice the disturbance over the NW gulf coast. This is one of those systems that will have to be looked at an hour by hour and forget about the models.

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Good post. Any time favorable conditions are present in September lookout.
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Re: ATL: SEVEN - Models

#34 Postby PSUHiker31 » Sun Sep 02, 2018 6:05 pm

HWRF showing a cat 1 south of Pensacola in the Gulf in 45 hours
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Re: ATL: SEVEN - Models

#35 Postby MississippiWx » Sun Sep 02, 2018 6:08 pm

HWRF with a Cat 2 at 51 hours, moving NW towards Ms.
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Re: ATL: SEVEN - Models

#36 Postby SunnyThoughts » Sun Sep 02, 2018 6:09 pm

HWRF 981 mb @ 51 hours about due south of mobile bay headed towards miss/LA maybe? still good bit off the coast
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#37 Postby jlauderdal » Sun Sep 02, 2018 6:13 pm

MississippiWx wrote:HWRF with a Cat 2 at 51 hours, moving NW towards Ms.
Hwrf usually good for at least two categories to the plus side

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Re: ATL: SEVEN - Models

#38 Postby stormlover2013 » Sun Sep 02, 2018 6:17 pm

Hwrf is worse than the gfs lol
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Re: ATL: SEVEN - Models

#39 Postby tolakram » Sun Sep 02, 2018 6:19 pm

HWRF run. Initializes the low over Cuba.

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Re: ATL: SEVEN - Models

#40 Postby cycloneye » Sun Sep 02, 2018 6:22 pm

If it happens on real time,this model will be the king.

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