ATL: ELEVEN - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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ATL: ELEVEN - Post-Tropical - Discussion

#1 Postby cycloneye » Wed Sep 19, 2018 6:25 pm

AL, 97, 2018091800, , BEST, 0, 72N, 379W, 20, 1010, WV, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, , 0, , 0, 0, GENESIS031, , 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, genesis-num, 031,
AL, 97, 2018091806, , BEST, 0, 73N, 391W, 20, 1010, WV, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, , 0, , 0, 0, GENESIS031, , 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, genesis-num, 031,
AL, 97, 2018091812, , BEST, 0, 74N, 403W, 20, 1010, WV, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, , 0, , 0, 0, GENESIS031, , 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, genesis-num, 031,
AL, 97, 2018091818, , BEST, 0, 76N, 415W, 25, 1009, WV, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, , 0, , 0, 0, GENESIS031, , 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, genesis-num, 031,
AL, 97, 2018091900, , BEST, 0, 79N, 427W, 25, 1009, WV, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, 1012, 180, 80, 0, 0, , 0, , 0, 0, GENESIS031, , 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, genesis-num, 031,
AL, 97, 2018091906, , BEST, 0, 83N, 438W, 25, 1009, WV, 34, NEQ, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1012, 170, 80, 0, 0, , 0, , 0, 0, GENESIS031, , 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, genesis-num, 031,
AL, 97, 2018091912, , BEST, 0, 87N, 449W, 25, 1009, LO, 34, NEQ, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1012, 160, 70, 0, 0, , 0, , 0, 0, GENESIS031, , 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, genesis-num, 031,
AL, 97, 2018091918, , BEST, 0, 91N, 460W, 25, 1009, LO, 34, NEQ, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1012, 150, 60, 0, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, INVEST, S, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, genesis-num, 031, SPAWNINVEST, al752018 to al972018,


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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#2 Postby Nimbus » Wed Sep 19, 2018 6:46 pm

Some convection tonight on the infrared glad the models are running.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#3 Postby cycloneye » Wed Sep 19, 2018 6:52 pm

8 PM TWO:

A westward-moving tropical wave is producing a small but
concentrated area of thunderstorms about 900 miles east of the
Windward Islands. Some slow development of this disturbance will be
possible through early Friday before environmental conditions become
quite unfavorable for tropical cyclone formation by late Friday and
continuing through the weekend.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...20 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...20 percent.


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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#4 Postby Emmett_Brown » Wed Sep 19, 2018 7:08 pm

The GFS shows a lot of shear over the E Caribbean and the Windward Islands in 48-72 hours, which is probably why the global models dissipate it.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#5 Postby cycloneye » Wed Sep 19, 2018 7:50 pm

00z Best Track:

AL, 97, 2018092000, , BEST, 0, 95N, 469W, 25, 1009, LO
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#6 Postby SEASON_CANCELED » Wed Sep 19, 2018 8:11 pm

Not seeing this becoming anything
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#7 Postby GeneratorPower » Wed Sep 19, 2018 8:33 pm

SEASON_CANCELED wrote:Not seeing this becoming anything


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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#8 Postby floridasun78 » Wed Sep 19, 2018 8:46 pm

system form going were no hurr allow in Caribbean shear await
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#9 Postby Sciencerocks » Wed Sep 19, 2018 9:23 pm

After isaac I am too scared to consider the possibility that this could form if it got into the Caribbean. The hostility of the shear and stability of the air mass scares the hell out of me.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#10 Postby floridasun78 » Wed Sep 19, 2018 11:46 pm

Sciencerocks wrote:After isaac I am too scared to consider the possibility that this could form if it got into the Caribbean. The hostility of the shear and stability of the air mass scares the hell out of me.

not thing be scare shear your friend it waiting for 97 come into Caribbean
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#11 Postby EquusStorm » Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:00 am

Oh wow those last few frames are very interesting, this ramped up fast. If that trend holds I wouldn't be shocked to see a special TWO in a couple hours noting immediate formation
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#12 Postby AutoPenalti » Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:09 am

Looks mid level to me, I don't see any indication yet of a closed low.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#13 Postby EquusStorm » Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:21 am

Might have just enough time to spin one up eventually if convection stays consistent and the mid level vort stays pretty intact though I suppose
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#14 Postby NDG » Thu Sep 20, 2018 5:14 am

Good spin this morning but not sure if it has a closed surface circulation.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#15 Postby GCANE » Thu Sep 20, 2018 5:15 am

Max vort at the 700mb level.
Riding along a shear axis, with most of the convection shear-induced.
Watching if this doesn't wash out.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#16 Postby GCANE » Thu Sep 20, 2018 5:17 am

Moderately high rain rate

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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#17 Postby Nimbus » Thu Sep 20, 2018 6:02 am

Looks like there might be some low level inflow pulling in from the southwest but NHC said there was a very unfavorable environment ahead. Both HWRF and GFS dissipated it in the Caribbean in the early runs and the 00Z runs don't show a very robust circulation early.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#18 Postby cycloneye » Thu Sep 20, 2018 6:18 am

8 AM TWO:

A concentrated area of thunderstorms associated with a westward-
moving tropical wave is located about 850 miles east of the
Windward Islands. Although this disturbance shows some signs of
organization on satellite imagery, there is no evidence of a surface
circulation at this time. Some additional development is possible
today before upper-level winds become highly unfavorable for
tropical cyclone formation starting tonight and continuing through
the weekend.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...20 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...20 percent.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#19 Postby Gustywind » Thu Sep 20, 2018 6:35 am

First appareance on SSD...

DATE/TIME LAT LON CLASSIFICATION STORM
20/0545 UTC 10.5N 47.4W T1.0/1.0 97L
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#20 Postby Gustywind » Thu Sep 20, 2018 8:07 am

Increasing numbers for 97L up to 1.5/1.5

DATE/TIME LAT LON CLASSIFICATION STORM
20/1145 UTC 10.8N 48.1W T1.5/1.5 97L
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