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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#81 Postby South Texas Storms » Mon Jul 08, 2019 3:08 pm

ColdMiser123 wrote:Still a good amount of spread on the new EPS, solutions from south Texas through eastern Louisiana.


Overall though it looks like the mean shifted west by a decent amount.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#82 Postby ColdMiser123 » Mon Jul 08, 2019 3:10 pm

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ColdMiser123 wrote:Still a good amount of spread on the new EPS, solutions from south Texas through eastern Louisiana.


Overall though it looks like the mean shifted west by a decent amount.


Agreed. There are now no members east of eastern Louisiana, and the CMC/UKMET solutions are actually on the extreme eastern side of the EPS ensemble spread. It looks like at least half turn this into a hurricane now, and about ~10% reach Category 2.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#83 Postby South Texas Storms » Mon Jul 08, 2019 3:17 pm

Curious to see what the HMON and HWRF show with this system. They should start running with the 18z cycle, which would be available in about 3 hours.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#84 Postby Steve » Mon Jul 08, 2019 4:30 pm

NAM 18z doesn’t do much with it but now takes it just south of the LA coast and ambles it over to to Upper Texas Coast.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#85 Postby CrazyC83 » Mon Jul 08, 2019 5:01 pm

18Z GFS barely takes it offshore at all, runs along the beaches and bayous. Not really buying it right now.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#86 Postby Hurricaneman » Mon Jul 08, 2019 5:04 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:18Z GFS barely takes it offshore at all, runs along the beaches and bayous. Not really buying it right now.

If I’d doesnt head west by Tuesday afternoon then the GFS will need to be discounted but it’s completely possible that the GFS is either right or will adjust farther offshore and develop like every other model
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#87 Postby NDG » Mon Jul 08, 2019 5:05 pm

18z GFS is still persistent that 92L will fight light northerly shear and dry air in the mid levels as it tracks westward.
A little slower and NE of previous runs.
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#88 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Jul 08, 2019 5:06 pm

18z GFS is pretty not very useful..
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#89 Postby Kingarabian » Mon Jul 08, 2019 5:06 pm

18z GFS also looks slower and more E/NE on this run:
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#90 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Mon Jul 08, 2019 5:06 pm

GFS could be right, as the NAM models appear to do the same. We shall see, I remember something similar being modeled in the past few years. I cannot remember which system, but the GFS ended up being right and the system stayed closer to the coast and therefore stayed weaker. It is very possible.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#91 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jul 08, 2019 5:07 pm

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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#92 Postby CrazyC83 » Mon Jul 08, 2019 5:07 pm

tarheelprogrammer wrote:GFS could be right, as the NAM models appear to do the same. We shall see, I remember something similar being modeled in the past few years. I cannot remember which system, but the GFS ended up being right and the system stayed closer to the coast and therefore stayed weaker. It is very possible.


Edouard in 2008 perhaps? That seems to be the low-end analog here, with Alicia the high-end analog.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#93 Postby SoupBone » Mon Jul 08, 2019 5:15 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:
tarheelprogrammer wrote:GFS could be right, as the NAM models appear to do the same. We shall see, I remember something similar being modeled in the past few years. I cannot remember which system, but the GFS ended up being right and the system stayed closer to the coast and therefore stayed weaker. It is very possible.


Edouard in 2008 perhaps? That seems to be the low-end analog here, with Alicia the high-end analog.



Alicia? What year?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#94 Postby Kingarabian » Mon Jul 08, 2019 5:16 pm

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CrazyC83 wrote:
tarheelprogrammer wrote:GFS could be right, as the NAM models appear to do the same. We shall see, I remember something similar being modeled in the past few years. I cannot remember which system, but the GFS ended up being right and the system stayed closer to the coast and therefore stayed weaker. It is very possible.


Edouard in 2008 perhaps? That seems to be the low-end analog here, with Alicia the high-end analog.



Alicia? What year?

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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#95 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jul 08, 2019 5:16 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:18z GFS is pretty not very useful..


Let's see what 00z has and is not a repeat.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#96 Postby TexWx » Mon Jul 08, 2019 5:16 pm

[/quote]Alicia? What year?[/quote]

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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#97 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Jul 08, 2019 5:17 pm

I am going to disregard the GFS for now. Until it can handle the current vorticity.. the 12z was much better than the 18z. it was still a little wonky with all the center reformations though..
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#98 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Mon Jul 08, 2019 5:31 pm

Oh, how the tides turn. Yesterday the ECMWF was a clear outlier, now it's the GFS.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#99 Postby northjaxpro » Mon Jul 08, 2019 5:41 pm

Kingarabian wrote:18z GFS also looks slower and more E/NE on this run:o
https://i.imgur.com/3LZtcFP.gif


It is on this particular run.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#100 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Jul 08, 2019 5:41 pm

Hypercane_Kyle wrote:Oh, how the tides turn. Yesterday the ECMWF was a clear outlier, now it's the GFS.


it is not exactly an outlier. it is just having some issues with the vorticity. the overall reasoning for track is inline with the euro.
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