ATL: DORIAN - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#9041 Postby supercane4867 » Fri Sep 06, 2019 6:12 pm

So Dorian will try to pull a Sandy? :double:

 https://twitter.com/ericblake12/status/1170095501250891776


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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#9042 Postby HurricaneBelle » Fri Sep 06, 2019 6:30 pm

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jaxfladude wrote:Yikes!!!!!!!!!! Prayers for The Bahamas and those in the South-East US coastline that had impacts from Dorian flooding tornadoes and surge etc..Now how bad is this for Canada and compared to other historical storm/hurricanes systems tropical and non tropical and winter storms????

It's probably going to be the worst storm since Hurricane Juan in 2003 for Atlantic Canada


Juan had an unusual track, hitting the south coast of NS on almost a due northerly track from Bermuda, so surge was only an issue on its eastern half. Dorian will be coming from the SW and if it hits the western side of NS it will bring surge to the entire southern coast so it could very well be worse.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#9043 Postby supercane4867 » Fri Sep 06, 2019 6:38 pm

Sunset view of Dorian off the Mid-Atlantic coast

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#9044 Postby gatorcane » Fri Sep 06, 2019 9:07 pm

Looking at the NHC graphic archive loop for 5-day track for this storm, clearly the models had a tough time with Dorian early on by Puerto Rico and especially on the approach to Florida. It is shown in how much the NHC track had to shift to accommodate the models. Worked out in Florida’s favor in a huge way this time:

https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2019/D ... _with_line
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#9045 Postby Buck » Fri Sep 06, 2019 9:23 pm

supercane4867 wrote:Sunset view of Dorian off the Mid-Atlantic coast

https://i.imgur.com/LLu1QZM.jpg


Feels like we’ve been watching this guy for a year.
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#9046 Postby hurricanes1234 » Fri Sep 06, 2019 9:39 pm

northjaxpro wrote:NOW, this one has my attention right off the bat. As Aric stated I think we FINALLY may have our first true and real and genuine MDR system that will actually have an opportunity to fully mature into a potential formidable tropical cyclone .

Dry air should not be a crippling inhibitor with.99L this time around. Origin of this system tied to the ITCZ initially.

On a side note, I also am impressed with the tropical wave behind 99L just off the African coast. That will be the.next invest soon. The North Atlantic basin looks to have finally.awakened folks, ,after a long summer slumber. Just in time for the approach of the peak time of the season


When you revisit a post on the first page of an infamous storm's thread and realise how stunningly accurate the post was.
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#9047 Postby 1900hurricane » Fri Sep 06, 2019 9:41 pm

Starting to take on some baroclinic influences now.

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#9048 Postby Steve » Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:00 pm

^^ yeah it looks like it though without looking at NHC’s 3 day or anything, it looks like it’s still got a day and half or couple of days more as a mostly tropical system. Blake pointed out the NTT, so it should expand as it transitions and possibly intensify a little. I know some people from Halifax, so I hope they fare well. For now, looks like some late night juicing
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/sat/sat ... t=vis-swir
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#9049 Postby CrazyC83 » Fri Sep 06, 2019 11:01 pm

Many models bring the pressure down into the 940-945 range and I don't think that is unrealistic at all.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#9050 Postby Steve » Fri Sep 06, 2019 11:10 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:Many models bring the pressure down into the 940-945 range and I don't think that is unrealistic at all.


If it maintains enough tropical characteristics, it’s going to get 50 ACE if it can drop back into the 940s. I’m not sure what the death toll will end up being in the Bahamas, but people will look back on Dorian for a long time. Some of the survivors on Abaco Islands will have some of the most extreme survivor stories ever. Cat 4/5 for 36 hours is pretty unheard of in the Western Hemisphere. Hurricane impacts for like 48-54 hours are as well.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#9051 Postby PavelGaborik10 » Sat Sep 07, 2019 2:01 am

CrazyC83 wrote:Many models bring the pressure down into the 940-945 range and I don't think that is unrealistic at all.


I'm way off in Eastern Cape Breton going to be about 200 KM from the center at it's closest approach I would gander. I'm hoping for a slight tick East so I can get some hurricane forced wind gusts...but unless it gets incredibly large I think that's pretty unlikely.

The Mainland is going to get battered.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#9052 Postby Cargill » Sat Sep 07, 2019 2:59 am

PavelGaborik10 wrote:
CrazyC83 wrote:Many models bring the pressure down into the 940-945 range and I don't think that is unrealistic at all.


I'm way off in Eastern Cape Breton going to be about 200 KM from the center at it's closest approach I would gander. I'm hoping for a slight tick East so I can get some hurricane forced wind gusts...but unless it gets incredibly large I think that's pretty unlikely.

The Mainland is going to get battered.


Most people don't wish hurricane-force winds upon themselves, usually for good reasons. Perhaps consult with the survivors in the Bahamas.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#9053 Postby Stormi » Sat Sep 07, 2019 3:34 am

:grrr:
Cargill wrote:
PavelGaborik10 wrote:
CrazyC83 wrote:Many models bring the pressure down into the 940-945 range and I don't think that is unrealistic at all.


I'm way off in Eastern Cape Breton going to be about 200 KM from the center at it's closest approach I would gander. I'm hoping for a slight tick East so I can get some hurricane forced wind gusts...but unless it gets incredibly large I think that's pretty unlikely.

The Mainland is going to get battered.


Most people don't wish hurricane-force winds upon themselves, usually for good reasons. Perhaps consult with the survivors in the Bahamas.


The OP meant no Ill-will, he is just a curious "chaser" to a natural extent & wanted the experience. I sympathize from Ncentral FL. He wasn't trying to disrespect, I believe just wanted to pay his respects, if that makes sense. Same over here.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#9054 Postby Stormi » Sat Sep 07, 2019 3:38 am

Also, not sure where my Angry Devil face came from, but he wasn't intended & I can't get rid of him :lol:
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#9055 Postby PavelGaborik10 » Sat Sep 07, 2019 4:32 am

Cargill wrote:
PavelGaborik10 wrote:
CrazyC83 wrote:Many models bring the pressure down into the 940-945 range and I don't think that is unrealistic at all.


I'm way off in Eastern Cape Breton going to be about 200 KM from the center at it's closest approach I would gander. I'm hoping for a slight tick East so I can get some hurricane forced wind gusts...but unless it gets incredibly large I think that's pretty unlikely.

The Mainland is going to get battered.


Most people don't wish hurricane-force winds upon themselves, usually for good reasons. Perhaps consult with the survivors in the Bahamas.


One would think you would be able to read between the lines in the sense that I was hoping to experience 75 MPH wind gusts, not a direct impact from a 175 MPH Category 5 Hurricane, but I suppose not.

I live in Nova Scotia, we routinely get Nor'Easters that produce hurricane force wind gusts, I was merely hoping for the opportunity to experience minimal hurricane forced gusts at a different time of year for a change. I swear some individuals go out of their way in order to end up offended.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#9056 Postby Buck » Sat Sep 07, 2019 5:01 am

PavelGaborik10 wrote:
Cargill wrote:
PavelGaborik10 wrote:
I'm way off in Eastern Cape Breton going to be about 200 KM from the center at it's closest approach I would gander. I'm hoping for a slight tick East so I can get some hurricane forced wind gusts...but unless it gets incredibly large I think that's pretty unlikely.

The Mainland is going to get battered.


Most people don't wish hurricane-force winds upon themselves, usually for good reasons. Perhaps consult with the survivors in the Bahamas.


One would think you would be able to read between the lines in the sense that I was hoping to experience 75 MPH wind gusts, not a direct impact from a 175 MPH Category 5 Hurricane, but I suppose not.

I live in Nova Scotia, we routinely get Nor'Easters that produce hurricane force winds gusts, I was merely hoping for the opportunity to experience minimal hurricane forced gusts at a different time of year for a change. I swear some individuals go out of their way in order to end up offended.


I get it. I got Hurricane force winds (or close) from Opal here in north Georgia. An experience I will never forget.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#9057 Postby Cargill » Sat Sep 07, 2019 5:12 am

I guess the best advice I can provide (after many years of experience), is then when you're deep in a hole, the best thing to do is to stop digging.

And anyway where is this storm now at ... it scuttled just past the Outer Banks - into forum oblivion it seems.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#9058 Postby Chris_in_Tampa » Sat Sep 07, 2019 7:37 am

Pressure has dropped rapidly at a buoy the storm is going nearly directly over:
https://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page. ... tion=44011

9:20am EDT: 957.8 mb

Here is a direct link to the pressure chart in millibars:
https://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/show_plot.php ... _label=ADT

At 7:30 am EDT the pressure was 966.4mb which is why the NHC might have been higher on the pressure. (unless there is some reason to doubt the buoy)

To see where it is in relation to this storm, go to National Data Buoy Center page:
https://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/
You can the one above.

The NHC in the 8am EDT advisory mentioned this one I think:
https://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page. ... tion=44008
It's pulling away from that one.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#9059 Postby Chris_in_Tampa » Sat Sep 07, 2019 7:45 am

And that buoy has a camera taking pictures hourly.

Buoy 44011:
https://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page. ... tion=44011

Saved images:

Although you can see less and less as each hour goes by.

6:10am EDT:

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7:10am EDT:

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8:10am EDT:

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#9060 Postby PavelGaborik10 » Sat Sep 07, 2019 8:14 am

Looks to be transitioning now, center is exposed. Still firing off storms though. Those pressure readings are extremely impressive...very well may fall well into the 940's at this rate.
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