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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#41 Postby Cpv17 » Fri Aug 23, 2019 7:30 pm

NDG wrote:This is how bad the Euro missed 99L.

https://i.imgur.com/Sk7EGdj.gif


Wow :lol:
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#42 Postby cycloneye » Fri Aug 23, 2019 7:32 pm

HWRF doing it's usual thing.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#43 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Fri Aug 23, 2019 7:39 pm

cycloneye wrote:HWRF doing it's usual thing.

https://i.imgur.com/beVf9qd.png


Not likely but not impossible this could be like Danny in 2015.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#44 Postby gatorcane » Fri Aug 23, 2019 7:44 pm

The only reason the 18Z GFS weakened this was due to going over Hispaniola. Had this gone just 100 miles more north, I think it would have shown something much more significant heading W to WNW into the Bahamas. It shows the Bermuda High ridge building westward into the SE US (192 hours shown) and an upper low moving west in tandem with 99l so it can’t shear it (168 hours). Below you can see the upper low over Eastern Cuba and 99l over Puerto Rico:

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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#45 Postby sma10 » Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:02 pm

gatorcane wrote:The only reason the 18Z GFS weakened this was due to going over Hispaniola. Had this gone just 100 miles more north, I think it would have shown something much more significant heading W to WNW into the Bahamas. It shows the Bermuda High ridge building westward into the SE US (192 hours shown) and an upper low moving west in tandem with 99l so it can’t shear it (168 hours). Below you can see the upper low over Eastern Cuba and 99l over Puerto Rico:

https://i.postimg.cc/Bnc54sPw/gfs-shear-watl-29.png

https://i.postimg.cc/446x83DM/gfs-z500a-Norm-watl-33.png


7 days out. I always say "if you're in the bullseye 7 days out it's the safest place to be" because the model is never going to be that pinpoint accurate. This tells me 99L is likely to NOT go over Hispaniola
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#46 Postby NDG » Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:08 pm

Hypercane_Kyle wrote:
NDG wrote:This is how bad the Euro missed 99L.

https://i.imgur.com/Sk7EGdj.gif


What's funny is that the ECMWF is a higher resolution model than the GFS, yet somehow cannot pick this system up.


For some reason it has been doing horrible with low latitude waves, I have noticed it all season long with the waves that were stronger than what it showed when they approached the southern windward islands.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#47 Postby Highteeld » Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:25 pm

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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#48 Postby cycloneye » Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:30 pm

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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#49 Postby AutoPenalti » Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:34 pm


That’s quite some agreement for 144 hours out.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#50 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:04 pm



Guaranteed death by windshear/land interaction if that path unfolds.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#51 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Fri Aug 23, 2019 11:55 pm

00z GFS much weaker through 120 hours, however it continues to show the possibility this system may have a much better chance of development past Jamaica (if it goes that far south).
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#52 Postby Highteeld » Sat Aug 24, 2019 12:04 am

The end of the GFS sure was interesting

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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#53 Postby MetroMike » Sat Aug 24, 2019 12:15 am

Highteeld wrote:The end of the GFS sure was interesting

https://i.imgur.com/Ld72CgC.png


Seems unlikely given the time of year for that track.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#54 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Sat Aug 24, 2019 12:27 am

MetroMike wrote:
Highteeld wrote:The end of the GFS sure was interesting

https://i.imgur.com/Ld72CgC.png


Seems unlikely given the time of year for that track.


Not really, see Harvey (slightly north) and Dean (further south).
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#55 Postby Ubuntwo » Sat Aug 24, 2019 12:29 am

MetroMike wrote:
Highteeld wrote:The end of the GFS sure was interesting

https://i.imgur.com/Ld72CgC.png


Seems unlikely given the time of year for that track.

It’s very unlikely, but not like it has no climo backing. Harvey had a very similar track around the same time of year.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#56 Postby Hurricaneman » Sat Aug 24, 2019 12:32 am

And the 1900 hurricane and Gilbert so paths like the GFS are showing have happened before
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#57 Postby MetroMike » Sat Aug 24, 2019 12:56 am

Ubuntwo wrote:
MetroMike wrote:
Highteeld wrote:The end of the GFS sure was interesting

https://i.imgur.com/Ld72CgC.png


Seems unlikely given the time of year for that track.

It’s very unlikely, but not like it has no climo backing. Harvey had a very similar track around the same time of year.

Yes I had that in mind but not a normal occurrence for Texas around September.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#58 Postby Hammy » Sat Aug 24, 2019 12:59 am

Hurricaneman wrote:And the 1900 hurricane and Gilbert so paths like the GFS are showing have happened before


Beulah in 1967 as well, almost a full month from now.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#59 Postby Hammy » Sat Aug 24, 2019 1:28 am

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Euro now clearly shows a small tropical storm, vs 24 hours ago.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#60 Postby Wx_Warrior » Sat Aug 24, 2019 1:55 am

And poof its gone on EURO 0z
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