ATL: CRISTOBAL - Post-Tropical - Discussion

Moderator: S2k Moderators

Message
Author
User avatar
GCANE
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 10787
Joined: Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:03 am

Re: ATL: THREE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#281 Postby GCANE » Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:13 am

I didn't see in the thread the mention that recon is tasked for today.

000
NOUS42 KNHC 011644
REPRPD
WEATHER RECONNAISSANCE FLIGHTS
CARCAH, NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER, MIAMI, FL.
1245 PM EDT MON 01 JUNE 2020
SUBJECT: TROPICAL CYCLONE PLAN OF THE DAY (TCPOD)
VALID 02/1100Z TO 03/1100Z JUNE 2020
TCPOD NUMBER.....20-006

I. ATLANTIC REQUIREMENTS
1. SUSPECT AREA (BAY OF CAMPECHE)
FLIGHT ONE - TEAL 71 FLIGHT TWO - TEAL 72
A. 02/1430Z A. 02/2330Z
B. AFXXX 01BBA INVEST B. AFXXX 0203A CYCLONE
C. 02/1200Z C. 02/2045Z
D. 20.0N 92.5W D. 19.5N 93.5W
E. 02/1400Z TO 02/1830Z E. 02/2300Z TO 03/0230Z
F. SFC TO 10,000 FT F. SFC TO 10,000 FT

FLIGHT THREE - TEAL 73
A. 03/1130Z
B. AFXXX 0303A CYCLONE
C. 03/0845Z
D. 19.0N 93.8W
E. 03/1100Z TO 03/1430Z
F. SFC TO 10,000 FT

2. OUTLOOK FOR SUCCEEDING DAY: CONTINUE 12-HRLY FIXES IF SYSTEM
DEVELOPS AND REMAINS A THREAT.
0 likes   

User avatar
GCANE
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 10787
Joined: Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:03 am

Re: ATL: THREE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#282 Postby GCANE » Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:44 am

ULL now forecast NE of PR as the system is in the middle of the GOM.
This creates a strong poleward outflow channel.
Forecast is for good moisture infeed.
No noticeable dry air entrainment at this point.
A shear axis to the west of the system.
IMHO, chances are good for a stronger storm to make landfall than what GFS is currently showing.

Image
1 likes   

tolakram
Admin
Admin
Posts: 19171
Age: 60
Joined: Sun Aug 27, 2006 8:23 pm
Location: Florence, KY (name is Mark)

Re: ATL: THREE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#283 Postby tolakram » Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:05 am

0 likes   
M a r k
- - - - -
Join us in chat: Storm2K Chatroom Invite. Android and IOS apps also available.

The posts in this forum are NOT official forecasts and should not be used as such. Posts are NOT endorsed by any professional institution or STORM2K.org. For official information and forecasts, please refer to NHC and NWS products.

User avatar
BYG Jacob
Category 3
Category 3
Posts: 893
Age: 26
Joined: Wed Aug 23, 2017 3:46 pm
Location: Tucson, Arizona

Re: ATL: THREE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#284 Postby BYG Jacob » Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:08 am

GCANE wrote:ULL now forecast NE of PR as the system is in the middle of the GOM.
This creates a strong poleward outflow channel.
Forecast is for good moisture infeed.
No noticeable dry air entrainment at this point.
A shear axis to the west of the system.
IMHO, chances are good for a stronger storm to make landfall than what GFS is currently showing.

https://i.imgur.com/dhysRFv.png

Getting flashback to Michaels set up
0 likes   

Aric Dunn
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 21228
Age: 41
Joined: Sun Sep 19, 2004 9:58 pm
Location: Ready for the Chase.
Contact:

Re: ATL: THREE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#285 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:11 am

Wrapping up very quickly now. Radar showing a nice solid curved band that has developed.
1 likes   
Note: If I make a post that is brief. Please refer back to previous posts for the analysis or reasoning. I do not re-write/qoute what my initial post said each time.
If there is nothing before... then just ask :)

Space & Atmospheric Physicist, Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University,
I believe the sky is falling...

User avatar
Nimbus
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 4928
Joined: Mon Jul 19, 2004 10:54 am

Re: ATL: THREE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#286 Postby Nimbus » Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:16 am

Looking more consolidated this morning, banding rain into Florida.
Track should shift back east a little possibly closer to Mississippi with the runs later today.
0 likes   

Aric Dunn
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 21228
Age: 41
Joined: Sun Sep 19, 2004 9:58 pm
Location: Ready for the Chase.
Contact:

Re: ATL: THREE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#287 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:18 am

It has moved roughly 100 miles in the las 24hours.. models yesterday had this completing its first loop by today.. not even close..
1 likes   
Note: If I make a post that is brief. Please refer back to previous posts for the analysis or reasoning. I do not re-write/qoute what my initial post said each time.
If there is nothing before... then just ask :)

Space & Atmospheric Physicist, Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University,
I believe the sky is falling...

Aric Dunn
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 21228
Age: 41
Joined: Sun Sep 19, 2004 9:58 pm
Location: Ready for the Chase.
Contact:

Re: ATL: THREE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#288 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:29 am

GCANE wrote:ULL now forecast NE of PR as the system is in the middle of the GOM.
This creates a strong poleward outflow channel.
Forecast is for good moisture infeed.
No noticeable dry air entrainment at this point.
A shear axis to the west of the system.
IMHO, chances are good for a stronger storm to make landfall than what GFS is currently showing.

https://i.imgur.com/dhysRFv.png


Most of the models are showing that the upper ridging will be just to its east.. so if this does end up being slower so that the trough gets further down then this will go a little farther east and hit a really good environment while it moves to the NE. a lot of "IFs" of ocurse.
1 likes   
Note: If I make a post that is brief. Please refer back to previous posts for the analysis or reasoning. I do not re-write/qoute what my initial post said each time.
If there is nothing before... then just ask :)

Space & Atmospheric Physicist, Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University,
I believe the sky is falling...

User avatar
BYG Jacob
Category 3
Category 3
Posts: 893
Age: 26
Joined: Wed Aug 23, 2017 3:46 pm
Location: Tucson, Arizona

Re: ATL: THREE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#289 Postby BYG Jacob » Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:34 am

Hot towers popping up near the center
0 likes   

Aric Dunn
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 21228
Age: 41
Joined: Sun Sep 19, 2004 9:58 pm
Location: Ready for the Chase.
Contact:

Re: ATL: THREE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#290 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:40 am

The upper high has been steadily shifting north since yesterday midday. shear is dropping

Image
1 likes   
Note: If I make a post that is brief. Please refer back to previous posts for the analysis or reasoning. I do not re-write/qoute what my initial post said each time.
If there is nothing before... then just ask :)

Space & Atmospheric Physicist, Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University,
I believe the sky is falling...

User avatar
SoupBone
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 3073
Joined: Tue Sep 20, 2005 5:24 pm

Re: ATL: THREE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#291 Postby SoupBone » Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:01 am

Aric Dunn wrote:
GCANE wrote:ULL now forecast NE of PR as the system is in the middle of the GOM.
This creates a strong poleward outflow channel.
Forecast is for good moisture infeed.
No noticeable dry air entrainment at this point.
A shear axis to the west of the system.
IMHO, chances are good for a stronger storm to make landfall than what GFS is currently showing.

https://i.imgur.com/dhysRFv.png


Most of the models are showing that the upper ridging will be just to its east.. so if this does end up being slower so that the trough gets further down then this will go a little farther east and hit a really good environment while it moves to the NE. a lot of "IFs" of ocurse.


How much further east though? The GFS still has it bumping the high the skirting into LaTex.
0 likes   
Personal Forecast Disclaimer:
The posts in this forum are NOT official forecast and should not be used as such. They are just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. They are NOT endorsed by any professional institution or storm2k.org. For official information, please refer to the NHC and NWS products.

Aric Dunn
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 21228
Age: 41
Joined: Sun Sep 19, 2004 9:58 pm
Location: Ready for the Chase.
Contact:

Re: ATL: THREE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#292 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:05 am

SoupBone wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:
GCANE wrote:ULL now forecast NE of PR as the system is in the middle of the GOM.
This creates a strong poleward outflow channel.
Forecast is for good moisture infeed.
No noticeable dry air entrainment at this point.
A shear axis to the west of the system.
IMHO, chances are good for a stronger storm to make landfall than what GFS is currently showing.

https://i.imgur.com/dhysRFv.png


Most of the models are showing that the upper ridging will be just to its east.. so if this does end up being slower so that the trough gets further down then this will go a little farther east and hit a really good environment while it moves to the NE. a lot of "IFs" of ocurse.


How much further east though? The GFS still has it bumping the high the skirting into LaTex.


It was just a hypithetical scenario.. hence why I said there are a lot of IFs

:)
but if it meandered long enough and the trough swung down then FLorida panhandle is possible.
1 likes   
Note: If I make a post that is brief. Please refer back to previous posts for the analysis or reasoning. I do not re-write/qoute what my initial post said each time.
If there is nothing before... then just ask :)

Space & Atmospheric Physicist, Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University,
I believe the sky is falling...

User avatar
GCANE
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 10787
Joined: Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:03 am

Re: ATL: THREE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#293 Postby GCANE » Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:13 am

Firing in 3000 CAPE air.
Pressure dropping.
UL vort dimishing.

Looks like its ramping up.


Image

Image

Image
0 likes   

Aric Dunn
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 21228
Age: 41
Joined: Sun Sep 19, 2004 9:58 pm
Location: Ready for the Chase.
Contact:

Re: ATL: THREE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#294 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:16 am

Look at that naughty little guy starting to wrap convection around the center..

this ladies and jelly bellies is almost certainly a TS>


Image
1 likes   
Note: If I make a post that is brief. Please refer back to previous posts for the analysis or reasoning. I do not re-write/qoute what my initial post said each time.
If there is nothing before... then just ask :)

Space & Atmospheric Physicist, Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University,
I believe the sky is falling...

Nederlander
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 1171
Joined: Sat Jul 19, 2008 4:28 pm
Location: Nederland, TX

Re: ATL: THREE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#295 Postby Nederlander » Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:26 am

Nimbus wrote:Looking more consolidated this morning, banding rain into Florida.
Track should shift back east a little possibly closer to Mississippi with the runs later today.

What would cause that in your opinion? High plains trough won’t be arriving to pick it up until late Tuesday night, two days after projected landfall.
0 likes   

User avatar
Ivanhater
Storm2k Moderator
Storm2k Moderator
Posts: 10852
Age: 37
Joined: Fri Jul 01, 2005 8:25 am
Location: Pensacola

Re: ATL: THREE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#296 Postby Ivanhater » Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:45 am

I wonder if this will be one of those cases where the convection to the northeast keeps pulling on the center
0 likes   
Michael

Aric Dunn
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 21228
Age: 41
Joined: Sun Sep 19, 2004 9:58 pm
Location: Ready for the Chase.
Contact:

Re: ATL: THREE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#297 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:49 am

Ivanhater wrote:I wonder if this will be one of those cases where the convection to the northeast keeps pulling on the center


That is very likely what has already been happening and why it has been so slow. it is more than 12 hours slower than the yesterdays model runs that had it diving into mexico.
that scenario is looking less likely now.
3 likes   
Note: If I make a post that is brief. Please refer back to previous posts for the analysis or reasoning. I do not re-write/qoute what my initial post said each time.
If there is nothing before... then just ask :)

Space & Atmospheric Physicist, Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University,
I believe the sky is falling...

User avatar
GCANE
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 10787
Joined: Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:03 am

Re: ATL: THREE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#298 Postby GCANE » Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:52 am

Couple of hot towers just off the CoC.
One to the east of the CoC, rapidly moving north.
Its ramping
0 likes   

galvestontx
Tropical Depression
Tropical Depression
Posts: 53
Joined: Wed Sep 21, 2005 1:00 pm
Location: houston texas
Contact:

Re: ATL: THREE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#299 Postby galvestontx » Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:54 am

Nederlander wrote:
Nimbus wrote:Looking more consolidated this morning, banding rain into Florida.
Track should shift back east a little possibly closer to Mississippi with the runs later today.

What would cause that in your opinion? High plains trough won’t be arriving to pick it up until late Tuesday night, two days after projected landfall.


he is wishcasting.
0 likes   

User avatar
GCANE
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 10787
Joined: Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:03 am

Re: ATL: THREE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#300 Postby GCANE » Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:57 am

Rapid scan on Rammb Slider, Sector: Mesoscale 1
0 likes   


Return to “2020”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 9 guests