ATL: ISAIAS - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3941 Postby wx98 » Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:07 am

wxman57 wrote:
StormingB81 wrote:
wxman57 wrote:Center is outrunning the convection. All those outflow boundaries it has been throwing out are a sign of collapsing squalls near the center. Shear is hitting it hard. Doubt recon would find hurricane force wind now.


I think once it hits that Gulf Stream it will go back up to a cat 1 as it scrapes the FL coast...it did the same thing yesterday then built back up


Water temperatures are not the problem now, it's wind shear. It could strengthen when it turns north and tracks WITH the upper-level flow.

Which is why you for sure can’t count it out as it moves toward the Carolinas in a couple days.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3942 Postby wx98 » Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:08 am

ConvergenceZone wrote:Thank goodness I can just shut the weather channel off now this weekend and get stuff done. So happy that it’s fallen apart so much overnight. And development chances are only going to get worse. In MY opinion might still end up with a minimal tropical storm raking the east coast, unless it falls apart faster

I wouldn’t be so sure yet...
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3943 Postby cp79 » Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:09 am

crimi481 wrote:Seems to be moving more west?


Center is while storms are moving more NW and NNW. It’s about to become naked.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3944 Postby toad strangler » Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:09 am

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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3945 Postby GCANE » Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:10 am

4500 CAPE in the core.
Hmm, its sitting over a large island and dropping in convection.
Who would have thought of that?
All kidding aside, its packing a punch.
Wait until it gets back over water.

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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3946 Postby wx98 » Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:10 am

Aric Dunn wrote:
GCANE wrote:Outflow is definitely taking out that western dry slot.
CAPE increasing in the dry slot from 500 to now 1000.

Outflow is pretty much in all radial directions.

Also CAPE increasing across northern FL. Now up to 3500.

Isaias could hit the water running, especially if an anticyclone quickly forms over this.
Chances looking better that it will.


Models are about to be way off. center moving wnw..

Low level cloud deck beginning to really thicken.. new convective burst coming soon

https://i.ibb.co/qJ8c4ZM/444455577788990000.gif

That loop looks interesting. Lots of stuff going on there.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3947 Postby toad strangler » Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:12 am

Gotta hand it to Morales, always has huge confidence in himself. We shall see!

 http://twitter.com/JohnMoralesNBC6/status/1289592071183982594


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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3948 Postby Jr0d » Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:12 am

Aric Dunn wrote:
GCANE wrote:Outflow is definitely taking out that western dry slot.
CAPE increasing in the dry slot from 500 to now 1000.

Outflow is pretty much in all radial directions.

Also CAPE increasing across northern FL. Now up to 3500.

Isaias could hit the water running, especially if an anticyclone quickly forms over this.
Chances looking better that it will.


Models are about to be way off. center moving wnw..

Low level cloud deck beginning to really thicken.. new convective burst coming soon

https://i.ibb.co/qJ8c4ZM/444455577788990000.gif


Might be stuggling for the rest of the day, but expect a huge burst of convection when the gulfstream waters start feeding Isaias.

Not sure if the NHC will downgrade later if it is apparent Isaias is not a hurricane, given the potential for the storm to quickly regain hurricane strength.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3949 Postby ObsessedMiami » Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:12 am

“No one is writing this storm off”

Followed by six or seven posts of people writing this storm off
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3950 Postby toad strangler » Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:12 am

cp79 wrote:
crimi481 wrote:Seems to be moving more west?


Center is while storms are moving more NW and NNW. It’s about to become naked.


yep, sure does look like a near Naked Swirl alert.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3951 Postby alienstorm » Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:13 am

Important to note while convention is off to the east, you can see some bands wraaping to the north south of grand bahama. If these are able to wrap around later this afternoon then there is a chance for some intensification, in the meantime it is now steer by lower level winds thus a more westward component can be expected.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3952 Postby GCANE » Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:14 am

Aric Dunn wrote:
GCANE wrote:Outflow is definitely taking out that western dry slot.
CAPE increasing in the dry slot from 500 to now 1000.

Outflow is pretty much in all radial directions.

Also CAPE increasing across northern FL. Now up to 3500.

Isaias could hit the water running, especially if an anticyclone quickly forms over this.
Chances looking better that it will.


Models are about to be way off. center moving wnw..

Low level cloud deck beginning to really thicken.. new convective burst coming soon

https://i.ibb.co/qJ8c4ZM/444455577788990000.gif


That outflow is on top of the infeeds.
Its not a surface-outflow boundary.
The outflow is mid troposphere, probably 500mb where all the dry air was measured earlier this morning.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3953 Postby CronkPSU » Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:17 am

geeez, both of the latest models for GFS and Euro have it coming right over my house in Eastern Orange County and yet the liquor store was still empty this morning
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3954 Postby toad strangler » Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:18 am

CronkPSU wrote:geeez, both of the latest models for GFS and Euro have it coming right over my house in Eastern Orange County and yet the liquor store was still empty this morning


Empty of people or liquor? :lol:
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3955 Postby eastcoastFL » Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:19 am

Looks like he’s going to be battling about 20kts of shear between now and Florida coast

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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3956 Postby NDG » Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:19 am

Steve wrote:
NDG wrote:Last night's Euro did a very good job of showing Isaias deep convection wine down this morning, it forecasts it to return later today to later collapse and so on while tracks along the FL coast through Sunday.

https://i.imgur.com/nMWYaVy.gif


I think I need to wine down this morning. :D


Me too, but it I'm afraid it will knock me out for the rest of the day and not wake up until Monday morning after the storm is gone, been barely getting any sleep the last few days :lol:
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3957 Postby cp79 » Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:20 am

CronkPSU wrote:geeez, both of the latest models for GFS and Euro have it coming right over my house in Eastern Orange County and yet the liquor store was still empty this morning


It’s possible the center may end up going over your house tomorrow and you could have sunny conditions. You just don’t want to be stuck about 100 miles to the east of this storm. Not sure it will get that far inland though.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3958 Postby DestinHurricane » Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:20 am

Low level clouds FLYING WNW in Boca.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3959 Postby robbielyn » Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:22 am

eastcoastFL wrote:Looks like he’s going to be battling about 20kts of shear between now and Florida coast

http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/atlantic/winds/wg8shr.GIF


Levi said the sheer may overestimated because of stormed induced sheer
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3960 Postby cp79 » Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:22 am

eastcoastFL wrote:Looks like he’s going to be battling about 20kts of shear between now and Florida coast

http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/atlantic/winds/wg8shr.GIF


The meteorologist here in Tampa basically said we have nothing to worry about because even if he does try and get close here, heavy winds will shear it off and keep the bad stuff from coming in. So the further west the center tries to go from here on out, the harder it’s going to be for the center to stay with the storms.
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