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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#2461 Postby Steve » Sun Aug 02, 2020 8:02 am

Here are a few interesting plots that are out there this morning.

GFS Para valid 2am Monday morning
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GFS Para valid 8pm Tuesday night
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GFS Tomorrow night at 8pm
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ICON valid 2am Tuesday morning
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#2462 Postby Steve » Sun Aug 02, 2020 8:09 am

Icon 2am Wednesday morning
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NAM 6pm tomorrow night
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HRRR 3pm today
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#2463 Postby Steve » Sun Aug 02, 2020 8:31 am

Here are a couple more:

HWRF 11am Tuesday
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HMON 11am Tuesday
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#2464 Postby StormingB81 » Sun Aug 02, 2020 8:45 am

Steve wrote:HRRR 3pm today
https://i.imgur.com/3Hc5S1B.png


Anyone want to bet against me that this doesn’t happen lol I’d be shocked if anything close to this happened
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Re: RE: Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#2465 Postby shiny-pebble » Sun Aug 02, 2020 8:51 am

StormingB81 wrote:
Steve wrote:HRRR 3pm today
https://i.imgur.com/3Hc5S1B.png


Anyone want to bet against me that this doesn’t happen lol I’d be shocked if anything close to this happened
It nailed last night I would nit be surprised if it nails today

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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#2466 Postby Jr0d » Sun Aug 02, 2020 8:54 am

StormingB81 wrote:
Steve wrote:HRRR 3pm today
https://i.imgur.com/3Hc5S1B.png


Anyone want to bet against me that this doesn’t happen lol I’d be shocked if anything close to this happened


Not that far off the current IR satellite.

A few models are still showing some strengthening as Isaias pulls north of Central Florida. I shoukd be sleeping but eagerly waiting more model data.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#2467 Postby Steve » Sun Aug 02, 2020 8:58 am

StormingB81 wrote:
Steve wrote:HRRR 3pm today
https://i.imgur.com/3Hc5S1B.png


Anyone want to bet against me that this doesn’t happen lol I’d be shocked if anything close to this happened


It's going to burst and burst again until it's farther north. Whether or not that means the heaviest rainfall stays offshore or not remains to be seen.

https://radar.weather.gov/ridge/radar.p ... 1&loop=yes
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#2468 Postby MJGarrison » Sun Aug 02, 2020 9:02 am

Steve wrote:Icon 2am Wednesday morning
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NAM 6pm tomorrow night
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HRRR 3pm today
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These simulated IR posts seem to be right on, there’s just not much rain under them.


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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#2469 Postby TheStormExpert » Sun Aug 02, 2020 9:05 am

The Carolinas look to have something more serious than Florida on their hands just looking over the models, likely will be a strong maybe more organized TS or hurricane for them.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#2470 Postby Steve » Sun Aug 02, 2020 9:41 am

Yeah MJ, I agree. I think there's a lot of rain offshore*. And that's what's so cool about this system. We'll be able to watch it come up and transition the weather to the north and west sides of the system as the approaching trough drawing it north gets closer to the coast.

* Scroll up toward Freeport
https://weather.com/weather/radar/inter ... .00,-77.55

And if you run future cast, you will see how close the inner core gets to Vero Beach and Palm Bay on the radar simulation. Current conditions in Freeport are 81 degrees and South winds at 28mph which would be about right with the center to the wnw of there. Also, look at the inflow cutting across west-east down in Palm Beach County. Could be some training. Watch out for wayward alligators if so.

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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#2471 Postby MJGarrison » Sun Aug 02, 2020 9:52 am

Steve wrote:Yeah MJ, I agree. I think there's a lot of rain offshore*. And that's what's so cool about this system. We'll be able to watch it come up and transition the weather to the north and west sides of the system as the approaching trough drawing it north gets closer to the coast.

* Scroll up toward Freeport
https://weather.com/weather/radar/inter ... .00,-77.55

And if you run future cast, you will see how close the inner core gets to Vero Beach and Palm Bay on the radar simulation. Current conditions in Freeport are 81 degrees and South winds at 28mph which would be about right with the center to the wnw of there. Also, look at the inflow cutting across west-east down in Palm Beach County. Could be some training. Watch out for wayward alligators if so.

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I just watched what you suggested, Steve, and that is quite the projected increase in thunderstorms and banding for the afternoon.


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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#2472 Postby Steve » Sun Aug 02, 2020 9:56 am

Yeah. Radar models are notoriously unpredictable. The VIPIR model at Fox 8 in New Orleans hit Cindy '05 pretty well. But it's bombed on most of the other ones I've watched their coverage of. So I don't trust them (radar derived models, I do trust Fox 8). But the way that weather.com radar model takes us out to almost 5pm EDT, it shows the center almost coalescing over Port St. Lucie area before pinballing back offshore. I don't know what's going to happen, but that's what we get to measure it by this afternoon. A dice roll IMHO with radar model depictions.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#2473 Postby Steve » Sun Aug 02, 2020 10:09 am

Here's another Benchmark to see how it does. 1:18pm EDT

Looks like the low level center with the midlevel energy remaining more offshore for then. This is in 2 hours and 10 minutes, so we'll see.

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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#2474 Postby ColdMiser123 » Sun Aug 02, 2020 10:42 am

12z GFS ticks east and stronger, looks like it's showing a minimal Category 1 landall near Wilmington now. Jet streak dynamics should allow the storm to be relatively strong as it moves inland in a couple days.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#2475 Postby Steve » Sun Aug 02, 2020 10:52 am

ColdMiser123 wrote:12z GFS ticks east and stronger, looks like it's showing a minimal Category 1 landall near Wilmington now. Jet streak dynamics should allow the storm to be relatively strong as it moves inland in a couple days.


Agreed on the relative strength. Fortunately it's not going to take its time coming up and shouldn't result in widespread flooding but more likely would bring localized flooding to low-lying areas, creeks and streams.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#2476 Postby ColdMiser123 » Sun Aug 02, 2020 2:22 pm

Steve wrote:
ColdMiser123 wrote:12z GFS ticks east and stronger, looks like it's showing a minimal Category 1 landall near Wilmington now. Jet streak dynamics should allow the storm to be relatively strong as it moves inland in a couple days.


Agreed on the relative strength. Fortunately it's not going to take its time coming up and shouldn't result in widespread flooding but more likely would bring localized flooding to low-lying areas, creeks and streams.


New Euro agrees and has a 65-70 KT landfall just west of Wilmington close to the NC/SC border. I would expect intensity to be pretty level today with any increases to happen throughout tomorrow.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#2477 Postby Hurricaneman » Sun Aug 02, 2020 10:08 pm

The 18zGFS was too weak with this and still too far west, I expect the 0zGFS to shift more East and make landfall between Cape Lookout to surf city
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#2478 Postby xironman » Mon Aug 03, 2020 6:29 am

HMON close to cat 2 at landfall

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