ATL: OMAR - Post-Tropical - Discussion

[Beef Stew]

Omar takes the record for earliest “O” storm by 6 days from Ophelia ‘05
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The subtropics sure have been on a roll this year. Omar will be weak and short lived, but a TS is a TS. Another naming record goes to 2020... on to the next. September 17th is the date to beat for #16.

[CrazyC83]

But whyyyyy

Atlantic seems desperate to get to the Greeks and just keeps throwing out things to eat names so we're out of names when the October big ones come apparently

At this rate, we'll be retiring Greek letters.

[EquusStorm]

I wish we either used names sequentially and just picked up where we left off, or had a standby auxillary list with regular names (like the X/Y/Z in the EPac) we could use, not like it's ever been an issue except this year and 2005 but it's seriously looking likely we're indeed going into peak Mitch/Wilma season with only Greek letters to name them.

[Hurricane Mike]

Only six names left.

[Beef Stew]

I wish we either used names sequentially and just picked up where we left off, or had a standby auxillary list with regular names (like the X/Y/Z in the EPac) we could use, not like it's ever been an issue except this year and 2005 but it's seriously looking likely we're indeed going into peak Mitch/Wilma season with only Greek letters to name them.

I also think the idea of a standby list would make the most sense. Even if we were to follow the same pace of formation that we did in 2018 from this point on out, we'd end up with Michael being 'Alpha'.

[CrazyC83]

Could Omar surprise us and live for quite a while? There have been surprise overperformers in the subtropics in recent years.

[ClarCari]

I wish we either used names sequentially and just picked up where we left off, or had a standby auxillary list with regular names (like the X/Y/Z in the EPac) we could use, not like it's ever been an issue except this year and 2005 but it's seriously looking likely we're indeed going into peak Mitch/Wilma season with only Greek letters to name them.

I also think the idea of a standby list would make the most sense. Even if we were to follow the same pace of formation that we did in 2018 from this point on out, we'd end up with Michael being 'Alpha'.

I also brought this up in the Reaching Alpha thread, but the NHC believed going alphabetical helps the public understand how far we are in a season, which isn’t year-round like the WPAC, so no-continuous names. EPAC is more storms on average than the ATL and retires names less often than ATL so having so few X, Y, and Z names makes sense. The Greek alphabet being used as auxiliary is to demonstrate a huge political and social example of how historically active and dangerous a hurricane season has been.

Is it perfect? No. But it’s the line of thought at the NHC that has proven quite strong since it’s inception so I doubt they will budge it anytime soon.

[zhukm29]

I wish we either used names sequentially and just picked up where we left off, or had a standby auxillary list with regular names (like the X/Y/Z in the EPac) we could use, not like it's ever been an issue except this year and 2005 but it's seriously looking likely we're indeed going into peak Mitch/Wilma season with only Greek letters to name them.

Honestly, X/Y/Z would be pretty cool, and it'd serve as a neat buffer before having to resort to Greeks, which cannot be retired. There are some pretty nice names at the end of the alphabet (and I'd argue that Y and Z names are easier to find than unused I names at this point ). These letters get used so infrequently that the risk running out of replacements shouldn't be a problem (especially since it's easier to find these names, and they're also becoming more common). I'd argue that X isn't too big of an issue either, since there are definitely quite a few Spanish X names that can be used (and Y has a bunch in French).

The names Xina/York/Zelda were actually added to the EPAC list during the middle of the 1985 season when Hurricane Waldo formed. Not so long ago, the EPAC also had 21 names like the ATL, and only the EPAC was updated since the ATL was never expected to get this far back then. But then 1995 happened, and things have never really been the same since. By the end of this year (assuming the rest of the season doesn't flop), every name list but list 1 will have reached the T name at some point, which is 2 away from exhausting the list. And we were really close in 2010-12 as well.

Also it'd just be cool to have a Hurricane Xander or a Hurricane Yuri or a Hurricane Zachary roaming around the Atlantic. I remember how exciting it was when Xavier formed in the EPAC in 2018. Just the fact it began with X made it exciting, kind of like an accomplishment of some sort.

[chaser1]

Only six names left.

That's incredible. We'll need those alone just for Frontal Zones and North Atlantic Gales during the next 8 weeks. Heaven knows how deep into Greek names we'll need to go for disturbances that form in the Tropics?

[aspen]

Oh look, we have Omar. Another name and another 2005 record down the toilet.

[Do_For_Love]

A couple references from knowledgeable posters in this thread about the prevalance of activity in the "subtropics"...I gotta say, man. We have had our warmest summer ever, with incredible humidity, and already been hit by two tropical storms. What are the specifications for being fully tropical? We might have to fill out an application or something at this point. Lol

[us89]

But whyyyyy

Atlantic seems desperate to get to the Greeks and just keeps throwing out things to eat names so we're out of names when the October big ones come apparently

At this rate, we'll be retiring Greek letters.

I thought this wasn't possible? I suppose WMO could always change their policy if say, Hurricane Beta becomes a category 5 and decimates wherever it hits...

[cheezyWXguy]

Oh look, we have Omar. Another name and another 2005 record down the toilet.

= more clicks and ratings! Yay media!

I think it’s more along the lines of “does this have 34kt winds and a warm core”

[aspen]

Omar takes the record for earliest “O” storm by 6 days from Ophelia ‘05
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The subtropics sure have been on a roll this year. Omar will be weak and short lived, but a TS is a TS. Another naming record goes to 2020... on to the next. September 17th is the date to beat for #16.

Since something is likely to develop from an AEW between the 4th and 8th, that record is going to get decimated as well.

[EquusStorm]

Yeah adding Z to the list is the only way I'll ever get my name on the naming lists haha. They should do the X/Y/Z rotation in the Atlantic too.

Maybe Xander/Yasmin/Zachary and Xanthe/Yale/Zoe or something.

I still blame Omar.

[toad strangler]

Let's be honest for a second. 2020 should definitely have Q*Bert on the name list.

[us89]

Held at 40 mph/1003 mb for the 11 pm advisory.

[Kazmit]

A name waster, lol. I was hoping the name Omar would be given to a powerful hurricane.

[wx98]

A name waster, lol. I was hoping the name Omar would be given to a powerful hurricane.

If this would’ve hurried up last night we would’ve had Omar in the Caribbean right now...

[Fancy1001]

A name waster, lol. I was hoping the name Omar would be given to a powerful hurricane.

Tell me about it, I've been making jokes for the last few weeks saying FEAR NANA!, but barely anyone's going to be fearing that little thing.