ATL: GAMMA - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: GAMMA - Tropical Storm

#261 Postby GCANE » Sun Oct 04, 2020 4:39 pm

Sorry for the late reply on the sift east relative to forecast track.
Had to run out this afternoon.
Anyway, red X is the last recon fix on the forecast track.

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Re: ATL: GAMMA - Tropical Storm

#262 Postby GCANE » Sun Oct 04, 2020 4:49 pm

Short-duration hot tower firing off with lightning just north of the CoC

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Re: ATL: GAMMA - Tropical Storm

#263 Postby wxman57 » Sun Oct 04, 2020 6:54 pm

Recon indicates Gamma may have been decapitated. All convection is up around 24N, but the center appears to be well to the south. Maybe 125 miles south of the heavier convection. Haven't closed it off yet, though.

Yep, center well south of the mid-level vortex. Southerly shear and dry air have taken quite a toll.

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Re: ATL: GAMMA - Tropical Storm

#264 Postby crimi481 » Sun Oct 04, 2020 10:55 pm

Gamma moving n.e and seems to be growing. No?
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Re: ATL: GAMMA - Tropical Storm

#265 Postby us89 » Sun Oct 04, 2020 11:01 pm

The convection being generated right now is quite impressive with cloud tops well below -80C.

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However, it is sheared well north of the LLC, which is located at 22.8N/87.2W.
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Re: ATL: GAMMA - Tropical Storm

#266 Postby ElectricStorm » Sun Oct 04, 2020 11:31 pm

Pressure up to 1000mb on latest recon pass. Seems like the end is near for Gamma. That would open the door for Delta to become stronger in the gulf right?
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Re: ATL: GAMMA - Tropical Storm

#267 Postby blp » Sun Oct 04, 2020 11:52 pm

crimi481 wrote:Gamma moving n.e and seems to be growing. No?


Like Wxman57 said she is decoupling. See loop below you clearly see llc now moving away from mlc.

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/sat/satlooper.php?region=gom&product=vis-swir
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Re: ATL: GAMMA - Tropical Storm

#268 Postby Nimbus » Mon Oct 05, 2020 12:17 am

Infrared looks like the Zapruder film.
So now a weaker Gamma will most likely be pulled back WSW as Delta approaches Cuba.
And a regenerating Gamma in the BOC might keep the Delta track from shifting NNE later in the forecast.
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Re: ATL: GAMMA - Tropical Storm

#269 Postby GCANE » Mon Oct 05, 2020 6:18 am

Very high rain rate for a "decoupled" TC.
I would expect this is where the cold pool is.
Could fire for quite a long time and would likely condition the upper levels in the GoM ahead of Delta.
Would enhance the Anticyclone Rossby Wave Break and increase chances of intensification of Delta once it gets in the GoM.

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Re: ATL: GAMMA - Tropical Storm

#270 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Mon Oct 05, 2020 6:47 am

While the LLC of Gamma meanders north of the Yucatán, the MLC and most of the rain is getting sheared NE towards the West Coast of Florida. Tropical Systems are fascinating.
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Re: ATL: GAMMA - Tropical Storm

#271 Postby TallyTracker » Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:12 am

If deep convection doesn’t return to Gamma soon, I would expect it to be declared a remnant low. Looks terrible this morning.
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Re: ATL: GAMMA - Tropical Depression

#272 Postby wx98 » Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:55 pm

Gamma is to Delta as Marco is to Laura
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Re: ATL: GAMMA - Tropical Depression

#273 Postby St0rmTh0r » Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:57 pm

wx98 wrote:Gamma is to Delta as Marco is to Laura

That's been an interesting theme this season coming in twos. A weaker storm paving the way for a much more powerful one
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Re: ATL: GAMMA - Tropical Depression

#274 Postby tomatkins » Tue Oct 06, 2020 7:50 am

St0rmTh0r wrote:
wx98 wrote:Gamma is to Delta as Marco is to Laura

That's been an interesting theme this season coming in twos. A weaker storm paving the way for a much more powerful one


They did seem to come in pairs alot - Teddy and Vicky, Paulette (who's remnants are still with us) and Rene, the forerunner of Beta and Sally as well.
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Re: ATL: GAMMA - Post-Tropical - Discussion

#275 Postby Ryxn » Tue Oct 06, 2020 8:29 am

Sights can be be deceiving but to be honest, ex-Gamma doesn't look to bad right now. Weak spin but a lot of convection.
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Re: ATL: GAMMA - Post-Tropical - Discussion

#276 Postby us89 » Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:47 am

Ex-Gamma is Delta's lunch.
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Re: ATL: GAMMA - Post-Tropical - Discussion

#277 Postby Blinhart » Tue Oct 06, 2020 11:08 am

Should start feeling the effects of Delta in the near future and just make Delta even bigger
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