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Re: ATL: LARRY - Models

#141 Postby RevanTheJedi96 » Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:12 pm

aspen wrote:The 00z model track guidance might warrant yet another SW shift for the NHC forecast track. Every model run makes a completely harmless recurve less and less likely. At the very least, this could be a problem for Bermuda.


Yeah I have no clue what to think of Larry. Models keep trending west and stronger. I am not a fan of that setup at all.
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Re: ATL: LARRY - Models

#142 Postby AutoPenalti » Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:33 pm

The recurve is still pretty solid there, Bermuda might be in trouble though.
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Re: ATL: LARRY - Models

#143 Postby IcyTundra » Wed Sep 01, 2021 10:42 pm

00Z ICON making a beeline towards Bermuda.

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Re: ATL: LARRY - Models

#144 Postby SconnieCane » Wed Sep 01, 2021 10:59 pm

AutoPenalti wrote:The recurve is still pretty solid there, Bermuda might be in trouble though.


I don't know about "in trouble." Bermuda is pretty solidly built against hurricanes. Neither Fay, Gonzalo, Nicole or Humberto did enough to warrant retirement. Last year's Paulette certainly didn't. It would take a real monster to do serious damage there.
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Re: ATL: LARRY - Models

#145 Postby Teban54 » Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:02 pm

SconnieCane wrote:
AutoPenalti wrote:The recurve is still pretty solid there, Bermuda might be in trouble though.


I don't know about "in trouble." Bermuda is pretty solidly built against hurricanes. Neither Fay, Gonzalo, Nicole or Humberto did enough to warrant retirement. Last year's Paulette certainly didn't. It would take a real monster to do serious damage there.

Add Paulette to that list.

Fabian did end up retired, though.
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Re: ATL: LARRY - Models

#146 Postby Ubuntwo » Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:11 pm

0z GFS shifts back northeast, the ICON is just a touch south.
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Re: ATL: LARRY - Models

#147 Postby RevanTheJedi96 » Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:36 pm

GFS shifted back East. Probably a good sign that this westward shift might be coming to an end.
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Re: ATL: LARRY - Models

#148 Postby kevin » Thu Sep 02, 2021 4:30 am

06z ICON, 955 mbar at 120 hours and right in the middle of the NHC cone. Slightly SW of 00z, which was (23.4N, 53.4W) @126 hours. This run is (23.1N, 54.3W) @120 hours. Also interesting to note that ICON has 3 additional (weak) active systems, one in the WCar, one new tropical wave and something in the GOM.

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Re: ATL: LARRY - Models

#149 Postby kevin » Thu Sep 02, 2021 5:44 am

HMON is near MH strength within 21 hours :double:.

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Re: ATL: LARRY - Models

#150 Postby kevin » Thu Sep 02, 2021 7:27 am

Unfortunately this storm wasn't named Mindy, because Larry is going for a Mega eye in 06z HWRF. The major axis has a diameter of 110 miles (180 km), about 3 - 6 times the average eye diameter.

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Re: ATL: LARRY - Models

#151 Postby Kohlecane » Thu Sep 02, 2021 7:54 am

kevin wrote:Unfortunately this storm wasn't named Mindy, because Larry is going for a Mega eye in 06z HWRF. The major axis has a diameter of 110 miles (180 km), about 3 - 6 times the average eye diameter.

https://i.imgur.com/S83BfAP.png

Got enough time to play a pick-up game between eyewalls :lol:
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Re: ATL: LARRY - Models

#152 Postby Kohlecane » Thu Sep 02, 2021 8:16 am

Looking through the models, that trough through the NE/E between Sep 8-9 seems to be influenced by what ever that low in the W.GOM(unsure if its 91L) is doing, seems that elongates it more SW digging deeper, Maybe it's just me This would be a good thing getting a stronger trough to give no way to continue W. But again I'm an amateur does anyone have any perspective on this?
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Re: ATL: LARRY - Models

#153 Postby pgoss11 » Thu Sep 02, 2021 10:55 am

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Re: ATL: LARRY - Models

#154 Postby pgoss11 » Thu Sep 02, 2021 10:57 am

12z ICON not good news for Bermuda[/quote]
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Re: ATL: LARRY - Models

#155 Postby Kohlecane » Thu Sep 02, 2021 11:12 am

okay GFS chill out with the near stall and SW shift go back to 06Z :eek:
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Re: ATL: LARRY - Models

#156 Postby AutoPenalti » Thu Sep 02, 2021 11:17 am

Kohlecane wrote:okay GFS chill out with the near stall and SW shift go back to 06Z :eek:

I don't think there's a near stall here.
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Re: ATL: LARRY - Models

#157 Postby weeniepatrol » Thu Sep 02, 2021 11:19 am

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Re: ATL: LARRY - Models

#158 Postby kevin » Thu Sep 02, 2021 11:30 am

12z ICON makes landfall on Bermuda with 950 mbar.

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Re: ATL: LARRY - Models

#159 Postby kevin » Thu Sep 02, 2021 11:32 am

12z GFS still east of Bermuda, but significantly further west than 06z. 06z passed by the island at (33.3N, 57.6W) while 12z passed at (32.8N, 60.8W) so about 220 miles (350 km) further west. One more shift like that could easily send it to Bermuda.
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Re: ATL: LARRY - Models

#160 Postby BobHarlem » Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:11 pm

The 12z Canadian has a Bermuda Sept 10 Cat 2 landfall.
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