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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#21 Postby LarryWx » Sun Nov 06, 2022 11:57 am

12Z GEFS: 90% of 31 members landfall in FL (all Cape Canaveral southward) centered near West Palm Beach. They landfall between 7AM Wednesday and 7PM Thursday with most at some point Wednesday night and just about all as a cat 1 or 2 hurricane.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#22 Postby cycloneye » Sun Nov 06, 2022 11:58 am

HWRF is running. Let's see what it has.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#23 Postby MetroMike » Sun Nov 06, 2022 11:58 am

The 12z CMC has a H landfall in Jacksonville vicinity. Rare hit area but this year anythings on the table.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#24 Postby cycloneye » Sun Nov 06, 2022 12:00 pm

HMON is also running.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#25 Postby blp » Sun Nov 06, 2022 12:00 pm

12z Ukmet. I think Ukmet will be useful once it's established.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#26 Postby Jr0d » Sun Nov 06, 2022 12:07 pm

If this goes as far north as the GFS is showing before diving SW, I imagine there will be naysayers about a a Florida landfall. The CMC does not take it as far north, and is not showing the SW dive. The EURO ensembles are showing a little SW movement...

Very interesting that the Yankee hurricane of 1935 also took a big dive south and was going WSW at landfall. Too bad we didnt have satellite data back then...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#27 Postby Blown Away » Sun Nov 06, 2022 12:13 pm

blp wrote:12z Ukmet. I think Ukmet will be useful once it's established.


https://i.ibb.co/KmHJh4t/floop-ukmet-2022110612-sfcwind-mslp-swatl.gif

Interesting the 12z Ukmet tops out @27N before moving W?? Sniffing out a change??
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#28 Postby NDG » Sun Nov 06, 2022 12:15 pm

It looks like the 12z HWRF will be stronger with 98L at FL landfall than the 12z GFS.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#29 Postby LarryWx » Sun Nov 06, 2022 12:18 pm

Blown Away wrote:
blp wrote:12z Ukmet. I think Ukmet will be useful once it's established.


https://i.ibb.co/KmHJh4t/floop-ukmet-2022110612-sfcwind-mslp-swatl.gif

Interesting the 12z Ukmet tops out @27N before moving W?? Sniffing out a change??


The 0Z UKMET topped out at 26.5N before turning WSW fwiw. So, the 12Z is slightly further north then but then comes back south to a similar position. Overall it was pretty consistent for that far out.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#30 Postby Blown Away » Sun Nov 06, 2022 12:22 pm

LarryWx wrote:
Blown Away wrote:


https://i.ibb.co/KmHJh4t/floop-ukmet-2022110612-sfcwind-mslp-swatl.gif

Interesting the 12z Ukmet tops out @27N before moving W?? Sniffing out a change??


The 0Z UKMET topped out at 26.5N before turning WSW fwiw. So, the 12Z is slightly further north then but then comes back south to a similar position.


Compared to GFS/EURO the top is a few degrees S?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#31 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Sun Nov 06, 2022 12:22 pm

HWRF is low MSLP, but also lower on the winds so far. Large, hybrid looking system.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#32 Postby SouthFLTropics » Sun Nov 06, 2022 12:27 pm

HMON goes to Cat 1 in 72 hours near Grand Bahama.


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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#33 Postby NDG » Sun Nov 06, 2022 12:28 pm

Hypercane_Kyle wrote:HWRF is low MSLP, but also lower on the winds so far. Large, hybrid looking system.


Models don't show getting full tropical characteristics until it reaches the northern Bahamas area, specially over the gulf stream.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#34 Postby GCANE » Sun Nov 06, 2022 12:31 pm

If I was a pro-met I would err on the side of caution.
Helluva eyewall making landfall


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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#35 Postby LarryWx » Sun Nov 06, 2022 12:38 pm

Blown Away wrote:
LarryWx wrote:
Blown Away wrote:
https://i.ibb.co/KmHJh4t/floop-ukmet-2022110612-sfcwind-mslp-swatl.gif

Interesting the 12z Ukmet tops out @27N before moving W?? Sniffing out a change??


The 0Z UKMET topped out at 26.5N before turning WSW fwiw. So, the 12Z is slightly further north then but then comes back south to a similar position.


Compared to GFS/EURO the top is a few degrees S?


The 12Z UKMET's 27N before turning WSW tops out ~2 degrees S of the 12Z GFS' ~29N and ~0.5 degrees S of the 6Z Euro's ~27.5 N
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#36 Postby NDG » Sun Nov 06, 2022 12:39 pm

12z HMON strong Cat 1, landfall near Vero Beach or just north of it.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#37 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Sun Nov 06, 2022 12:40 pm

HWRF landfall Stuart FL as formidable cane.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#38 Postby NDG » Sun Nov 06, 2022 12:42 pm

I stand corrected about the 12z HWRF possibly making landfall stronger than the GFS.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#39 Postby shah83 » Sun Nov 06, 2022 12:44 pm

Winds seems low for the pressure gradient implied, but I don't know anything...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#40 Postby LarryWx » Sun Nov 06, 2022 12:44 pm

DESTRUCTION5 wrote:HWRF landfall Stuart FL as formidable cane.


This is near the 12z UKMET but 12 hours earlier (Wednesday evening 7 PM).
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