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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#41 Postby MarioProtVI » Sat Oct 14, 2023 12:18 am

94L is rapidly organizing faster then I anticipated, and is likely close to becoming a TC and will likely do so later today if it keeps this up. With the GFS, CMC, ICON and the EURO (00z is also likely strong seeing how 18z uptrended) plus the ensembles all beginning to agree on at least a Cat 2, we could be heading for unprecedented territory here - and I don’t think they’re bluffing seeing as this consensus was very reminiscent of Lee last month.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#42 Postby ElectricStorm » Sat Oct 14, 2023 12:28 am

1. Eastern Tropical Atlantic (AL94):
Shower and thunderstorm activity associated with an area of low
pressure located several hundred miles southwest of the Cabo Verde
Islands has increased overnight and is showing signs of
organization. Environmental conditions are expected to become
more conducive for development this weekend and early next week,
and a tropical depression is likely to form within the next few
days while the system moves westward or west-northwestward across
the central and western tropical Atlantic.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...medium...60 percent.
* Formation chance through 7 days...high...80 percent.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#43 Postby abajan » Sat Oct 14, 2023 1:51 am

MarioProtVI wrote:94L is rapidly organizing faster then I anticipated, and is likely close to becoming a TC and will likely do so later today if it keeps this up. With the GFS, CMC, ICON and the EURO (00z is also likely strong seeing how 18z uptrended) plus the ensembles all beginning to agree on at least a Cat 2, we could be heading for unprecedented territory here - and I don’t think they’re bluffing seeing as this consensus was very reminiscent of Lee last month.

Already starting to get that classic shrimp look:

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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#44 Postby MarioProtVI » Sat Oct 14, 2023 2:04 am

abajan wrote:
MarioProtVI wrote:94L is rapidly organizing faster then I anticipated, and is likely close to becoming a TC and will likely do so later today if it keeps this up. With the GFS, CMC, ICON and the EURO (00z is also likely strong seeing how 18z uptrended) plus the ensembles all beginning to agree on at least a Cat 2, we could be heading for unprecedented territory here - and I don’t think they’re bluffing seeing as this consensus was very reminiscent of Lee last month.

Already starting to get that classic shrimp look:

https://images2.imgbox.com/6a/29/xn9Us6SC_o.gif

Yeah this is definitely a TD now. Advisories certainly later today.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#45 Postby abajan » Sat Oct 14, 2023 2:08 am

AL, 94, 2023101406, , BEST, 0, 93N, 304W, 30, 1008, LO


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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#46 Postby ChrisH-UK » Sat Oct 14, 2023 3:46 am

94L looks well developed.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#47 Postby cycloneye » Sat Oct 14, 2023 4:45 am

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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#48 Postby cycloneye » Sat Oct 14, 2023 6:43 am

Eastern Tropical Atlantic (AL94):
Showers and thunderstorms associated with an area of low pressure
located several hundred miles southwest of the Cabo Verde Islands
have become more concentrated, and better organized during the past
several hours. Environmental conditions are becoming more conducive
for further development, and a tropical depression is likely to form
within the next couple of days while the system moves westward or
west-northwestward across the central and western tropical Atlantic.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...high...70 percent.
* Formation chance through 7 days...high...90 percent.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#49 Postby Hurricane2022 » Sat Oct 14, 2023 6:45 am

ZCZC MIATWOAT ALL
TTAA00 KNHC DDHHMM

Tropical Weather Outlook
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL
800 AM EDT Sat Oct 14 2023

For the North Atlantic...Caribbean Sea and the Gulf of Mexico:

Active Systems:
The National Hurricane Center is issuing advisories on Tropical
Storm Sean, located over the central tropical Atlantic.

1. Eastern Tropical Atlantic (AL94):
Showers and thunderstorms associated with an area of low pressure
located several hundred miles southwest of the Cabo Verde Islands
have become more concentrated, and better organized during the past
several hours. Environmental conditions are becoming more conducive
for further development, and a tropical depression is likely to form
within the next couple of days while the system moves westward or
west-northwestward across the central and western tropical Atlantic.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...high...70 percent.
* Formation chance through 7
days...high...90 percent.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#50 Postby WalterWhite » Sat Oct 14, 2023 6:50 am

This could be upgraded to Tropical Depression 20L in the next best track.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#51 Postby Hurricane2022 » Sat Oct 14, 2023 7:08 am

WalterWhite wrote:Tropical Depression 20L

No. We have an strengthening El Nino now.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#52 Postby cycloneye » Sat Oct 14, 2023 7:24 am

If this develops as the models are showing, it may cause the North Atlantic ACE to reach hyperactive threshold. As of 10/14/23 at 12z, is at 130.4.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#53 Postby WalterWhite » Sat Oct 14, 2023 7:40 am

This still remains an Invest.

AL, 94, 2023101412, , BEST, 0, 95N, 317W, 30, 1008, LO, 34, NEQ, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1011, 150, 120, 0, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, INVEST, S, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, genesis-num, 040,
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#54 Postby WeatherBoy2000 » Sat Oct 14, 2023 7:55 am

It's looking increasingly more likely that there will be a strong to even major CV hurricane within the mdr in coming days. This is very rare for this time of year. Using NOAA's historical track tool, only a handful occurred after October 1st and mostly prior to 1900. Recent examples include Jose 1999, Tomas 2010, and Gonzalo 2014. 94l has a good chance of seeing development further east than those storms as well.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#55 Postby cycloneye » Sat Oct 14, 2023 7:56 am

Moving at 280 degrees west at 12kt.

FORECAST TRACK FROM OFPI INITIAL HEADING/SPEED (DEG/KT):280/ 12

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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#56 Postby WalterWhite » Sat Oct 14, 2023 7:58 am

WeatherBoy2000 wrote:It's looking increasingly more likely that there will be a strong to even major CV hurricane within the mdr in coming days. This is very rare for this time of year. Using NOAA's historical track tool, only a handful occurred after October 1st and mostly prior to 1900. Recent examples include Jose 1999, Tomas 2010, and Gonzalo 2014. 94l has a good chance of seeing development further east than those storms as well.

Jose (1999) and Tomas (2010) were not major hurricanes. This would be an ever rarer event than your post indicates.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#57 Postby wxman57 » Sat Oct 14, 2023 8:27 am

Models have been over predicting MDR development all season. Only Lee managed to develop into a hurricane. Consensus takes it NE of the islands by 7am Saturday. Numbers along the track are date/CDT. I'm not very confident in track or intensity forecast.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#58 Postby WeatherBoy2000 » Sat Oct 14, 2023 9:23 am

WalterWhite wrote:
WeatherBoy2000 wrote:It's looking increasingly more likely that there will be a strong to even major CV hurricane within the mdr in coming days. This is very rare for this time of year. Using NOAA's historical track tool, only a handful occurred after October 1st and mostly prior to 1900. Recent examples include Jose 1999, Tomas 2010, and Gonzalo 2014. 94l has a good chance of seeing development further east than those storms as well.

Jose (1999) and Tomas (2010) were not major hurricanes. This would be an ever rarer event than your post indicates.


I never said they were, but they did become hurricanes east of the Antilles, and later on strong storms of at least cat 2 intensity.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#59 Postby cycloneye » Sat Oct 14, 2023 9:37 am

Bingo. ASCAT hits partially but has a closed low and is more south than the 12z Best Track position.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#60 Postby Sciencerocks » Sat Oct 14, 2023 9:58 am

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