TD#5 terrifying look like TD#3....

[Anonymous]

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT ... -loop.html

Notic how much it looks like Charley did when it was a TD.... OH BOY!!

[Steve Cosby]

Notic how much it looks like Charley did when it was a TD.... OH BOY!!

Do you think the idiots on the west coast of Florida will pay attention this time???

(I'm sorry - it's just so idiotic)

[seaswing]

They better!!!

[Matthew5]

Looks like the son of Charley

[HURAKAN]

Notic how much it looks like Charley did when it was a TD.... OH BOY!!

Do you think the idiots on the west coast of Florida will pay attention this time???

(I'm sorry - it's just so idiotic)

I know that at this moment they should be more interested in restoration than to watch TD #5/Earl, but by the middle of the week they should keep an eye, I will say "we" should keep an eye in the tropics. It may get through the Yucatan Peninsula, or the Yucatan Channel, or western Cuba. At this moment I don't know. But it sure looks it will be another big problem for the Greater Antilles.

[stormchazer]

This appears to be a Western Gulfcoast storm. Remember that some unusual factors came into play with Charley. It should be watched, but I'm not getting nervous yet.

[CoyoteUglyGurl]

Pensacola here i afraid we may get this one. Charley was suppose to come this way , becuase of the weird turns and the front it save our butts. I think we may not be so lucky with the next storm . OUr local channel said 5 is the one we have to worry about.

[caribepr]

Calling people idiots is a pretty general, rather low, thing to do. Sometimes you can do ALL the suggestions and still have everything go wrong, because Nature is just that, a natural force that doesn't play by any rules but her own.
Yes, people living in and close to hurricane areas should, every year, be prepared BY June 1st for storms and hurricanes and have a plan ready (beyond that, people should be much more aware of exactly where they live or are moving to - for example, too many in Florida live in former swamps or on mere sand spits and don't even know it). Sadly, too many are too removed from the reality of nature to think it can be *real* in a dangerous way, to themselves. Well...
I think some very hard lessons were and are being learned from Charley and rather than pointing fingers and calling names, no matter how easy it is to do, we should do what we can for those in need and take a look at ourselves and our own preparedness for the (immediate!) future. Monday morning quarterbacking, as I think it's called, is exactly that, and helps no one.

[stormchazer]

Very well said caribepr.

[eyesurvivor]

Nobody will ever have to tell me to leave again. I stayed for Alicia in 1983 and ended up in the eye.

eyesurvivor

[NorthGaWeather]

Calling people idiots is a pretty general, rather low, thing to do. Sometimes you can do ALL the suggestions and still have everything go wrong, because Nature is just that, a natural force that doesn't play by any rules but her own.
Yes, people living in and close to hurricane areas should, every year, be prepared BY June 1st for storms and hurricanes and have a plan ready (beyond that, people should be much more aware of exactly where they live or are moving to - for example, too many in Florida live in former swamps or on mere sand spits and don't even know it). Sadly, too many are too removed from the reality of nature to think it can be *real* in a dangerous way, to themselves. Well...
I think some very hard lessons were and are being learned from Charley and rather than pointing fingers and calling names, no matter how easy it is to do, we should do what we can for those in need and take a look at ourselves and our own preparedness for the (immediate!) future. Monday morning quarterbacking, as I think it's called, is exactly that, and helps no one.

What do you call someone staying in a mobile home during a hurricane? Idiot comes to mind, Unwise, Stupid but those are a little to harsh for you. These people that were injured and rode out the storm within the storm surge zone and in mobile homes have nobody to blame but themselves. This hurricane didn't just develop yesterday its been out their for awhile and if I remember they had watches up 72hrs before the storm made landfall. I know many people called for this to be a major hurricane so people can't play that card. Its just like people saying they didn't have warning when a tornado was coming and you go back and look and they had 30 minutes lead time.

[HURAKAN]

EARL IS HERE TO STAY AND MAKE TROUBLE

[Steve Cosby]

Calling people idiots is a pretty general, rather low, thing to do.

No, I stick with it. Yes, it is a generalization and, certainly, there are people who litterally could not have done a thing differently. For those people I am absolutely sorry for their loss and wish them the best. I don't even label the people who actually went to the shelters idiots. At least they tried to do something to protect themselves and their family.

It is the able bodied people like myself who have a brain but have failed to obtain insurance, failed to heed the warnings, wanted to have a party in the storm, etc. that deserve, nay, must be labeled "idiots".

Have you seen the news today? There are litterally tons of stories of such and such person saying "I decided to ride it out because of... " (stupid reasons like: I wanted to see what it would be like, I didn't think it would be as powerful as they were predicting, etc).

I tell what has made me so vocal today. A few minutes ago, I pulled up the TWC site and did their little slide show. Long about picture 30 or so, there was an AP photograph of two little boys (5 or 6) hanging on to a rail with the surge crashing around them. How *#*%#% stupid. The parents should be brought up on child abuse charges. The photographer was too interested in getting a picture. Come on! It's bad enough for adults to make decisions affecting themselves. But, when it is kids paying for their mistakes, it's even worse.

[caribepr]

There is a good chance I'd have to call them dead, and that is harsh enough. What good does it do to call them stupid or idiots? My point was and is; hopefully people will learn from this and do better in the future.

[NorthGaWeather]

Well they're taking a dirt nap now because of an idiotic mistake. I quess you would think that people drinking and driving aren't making an idiotic or stupid mistake but doing the right thing. Please....

[Steve Cosby]

My point was and is; hopefully people will learn from this and do better in the future.

Oh, I fully agree with that.

[Guest]

well the term idiot, in my opnion, does apply to those fools who stayed behind in their mobile homes. It doesn't come down to the fact that the storm took an unexpected turn and strengthened by 35 mph in one advisory due to the nhc not changing to cat three at 11am, but the fact was that they were in a low lying area, with knowledge of charley already as a cat.2, and didn't evacuate. The only blame is on the people who stayed behind.

On another note, Earl looks to be a big threat. It could become another major hurricane even. There is some potential that another front will be approaching the Gulf when Earl comes into the Gulf, so this could be like Charley. As of now with the data we have, I predict (very preliminary and just a guess) that Earl makes landfall as a category 3 or 4 somewhere between New Orleans and the Keys. Bottom line is- Central and Eastern GOM watch out!

[Steve Cosby]

I quess you would think that people drinking and driving aren't making an idiotic or stupid mistake but doing the right thing. Please....

There you go - the same thing. It returns to personal responsibility.

[Air Force Met]

Nogaps takes this storm into the same general area as Charley in 6 days.

[Steve Cosby]

As of now with the data we have, I predict (very preliminary and just a guess) that Earl makes landfall as a category 3 or 4 somewhere between New Orleans and the Keys. Bottom line is- Central and Eastern GOM watch out!

The one thing that is absolutely clear is there is a lot of bath water in the GOM right now. Let's see, what fuels a TC? Humm. I believe it is warm water?