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2010 ties 2005 as warmest year on record

#1 Postby GCANE » Fri Jan 14, 2011 7:10 am

On January 12, 2011, NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) announced that 2010 had tied 2005 as the warmest year in their 131-year instrumental record. NOAA also declared 2010 to be tied with 2005.

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=48574

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#2 Postby RL3AO » Fri Jan 14, 2011 11:09 am

Sorry, but I don't trust any of these stories.

How can you know the entire polar region is 5 to 8 degrees above average every single year? After a while you start to wonder if the average is right. How can you possibly know what the average temp of the north pole was in 1927? From my understanding, there were few if any weather stations say north of 75N back then.

"tied 2005 as the warmest year in their 131-year instrumental record"

And how many of those years had widespread instruments over the north pole? Temps from satellites started around 1978. That covers the past 32 years. What about the 99 before it?
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#3 Postby chris_fit » Mon Jan 17, 2011 5:22 pm

If I'm not mistaken, 2010 was one of the coldest, if not THE coldest winter on record for most of Florida, yet this map shows we were above average.....
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#4 Postby Metalicwx220 » Mon Jan 17, 2011 5:59 pm

RL3AO wrote:Sorry, but I don't trust any of these stories.

How can you know the entire polar region is 5 to 8 degrees above average every single year? After a while you start to wonder if the average is right. How can you possibly know what the average temp of the north pole was in 1927? From my understanding, there were few if any weather stations say north of 75N back then.

"tied 2005 as the warmest year in their 131-year instrumental record"

And how many of those years had widespread instruments over the north pole? Temps from satellites started around 1978. That covers the past 32 years. What about the 99 before it?

Thank you! How can they just say something was the warmest on record ? Same situation with somehow they knew there were 2 category 4 hurricanes in 1926 when igor and julia was present.
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Re: 2010 ties 2005 as warmest year on record

#5 Postby gigabite » Fri Jan 21, 2011 8:22 pm

TAO_2005-2010

This is a link to the atmospheric temperature at the center of the Pacific Ocean. The Earth is now as far from the Sun as we will get in anyones life time, so there is a good chance of cooling, at least for a few decades. That is not to say it hasn't been hot. It was hot really hot out in the central Pacific for about a half of a decade, but the end of 2010 shows some sign of a cool off. It seems reasonable to me. I haven't looked at the Sun spot data for a while, but it seems like there has been lots of rain, more clouds less solar radiation. I know my amaryllis refuses to bloom.
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#6 Postby Macrocane » Fri Jan 21, 2011 9:40 pm

chris_fit wrote:If I'm not mistaken, 2010 was one of the coldest, if not THE coldest winter on record for most of Florida, yet this map shows we were above average.....


I've read that last December was one of the coldest on record for Florida, but that's just one month, the other 11 may be another story.
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#7 Postby Macrocane » Fri Jan 21, 2011 9:44 pm

Metalicwx220 wrote:
Thank you! How can they just say something was the warmest on record ? Same situation with somehow they knew there were 2 category 4 hurricanes in 1926 when igor and julia was present.


Why do you say it's the same situation? so you believe that there were or there were not two simulatneous category 4 hurricanes before 2010?
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#8 Postby Metalicwx220 » Fri Jan 21, 2011 11:49 pm

Macrocane wrote:
Metalicwx220 wrote:
Thank you! How can they just say something was the warmest on record ? Same situation with somehow they knew there were 2 category 4 hurricanes in 1926 when igor and julia was present.


Why do you say it's the same situation? so you believe that there were or there were not two simulatneous category 4 hurricanes before 2010?

I believe there wasn't because there wasn't any satelites back then. It couldve of been but its no way you can no that. 1933 which was the 2nd most active season and there was no cape verde storms so that couldve been more active than 2005. Im trying to say how can you possibly know something like that.(kinda off toopic I think.)
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#9 Postby WeatherGuesser » Sat Jan 22, 2011 2:27 am

Im trying to say ...

You may be trying to say something with that collection of letters, but I can't figure it out.
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#10 Postby Metalicwx220 » Sat Jan 22, 2011 5:30 am

WeatherGuesser wrote:Im trying to say ...

You may be trying to say something with that collection of letters, but I can't figure it out.

? WHAT?
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#11 Postby WeatherGuesser » Sat Jan 22, 2011 6:09 am

Metalicwx220 wrote:? WHAT?


Exactly. :roll:



Back to topic:

How does this winter's cold and snow compare to normal?

The winter of 2010-11 is off to a cold and snowy start. The first half of this winter ranks among the coldest and snowiest starts to any winter on record. The following are preliminary temperature and snowfall stats for Evansville and Paducah:

TEMPERATURES:

At Paducah, the average temperature from December 1 to January 20 was 31.4 degrees. This ranks as the 6th coldest such period on record. Records at Paducah date back to 1937. The coldest such period was 27.6 in 2001, followed by 27.7 in 1977.

At Evansville, the average temperature from December 1 to January 20 was 29.3 degrees. This ranks as the 7th coldest such period on record, tied with 1959. Records at Evansville date back to 1897. The coldest such period was 23.0 in 1918, followed by 24.8 in 1977.

SNOWFALL:

At Paducah, the snowfall so far this season has been 8.6 inches. This ranks as the 8th snowiest such period. The snowiest such period on record was 18.7 inches in 1977-1978. The mean snowfall for an entire winter at Paducah is only 9.6 inches.

At Evansville, the snowfall so far this season has been 12.5 inches. This ranks as the 8th snowiest such period. The snowiest such period on record was 22.3 inches in 2004-2005, and all of that snow fell in the record-setting December 23 storm. The 2nd snowiest such period was 21.9 inches in 1976-77. The mean snowfall for an entire winter at Evansville is only 13.3 inches.

The cold and snow so far this winter does not necessarily mean the remainder of the winter will be the same.


http://www.crh.noaa.gov/news/display_cm ... 7&source=0
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Re: 2010 ties 2005 as warmest year on record

#12 Postby Metalicwx220 » Sat Jan 22, 2011 7:56 am

GCANE wrote:On January 12, 2011, NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) announced that 2010 had tied 2005 as the warmest year in their 131-year instrumental record. NOAA also declared 2010 to be tied with 2005.

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=48574

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Im surprised as to why the SST are not deep red with the hurricane season last year in 2010. The heat also dominated last year. This year may very well be the opposite.
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Re: 2010 ties 2005 as warmest year on record

#13 Postby gigabite » Sat Jan 22, 2011 8:16 am

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With the increase amount of solar activity, and the decreased thickness of the plasma-sphere the potential
for cloud cover and precipitation increases, that along with a smaller solar disk at the solar maximum makes
me think that the climate forecast will be cooler and snowier.
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#14 Postby thetruesms » Mon Jan 31, 2011 11:11 am

chris_fit wrote:If I'm not mistaken, 2010 was one of the coldest, if not THE coldest winter on record for most of Florida, yet this map shows we were above average.....
Can't make any distinctions on winter, since it is defined as DJF, but yes - it was the coldest December on record
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But, oh gee, I don't know, this might have had something to do with Florida being above average on the year :lol:
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Re: 2010 ties 2005 as warmest year on record

#15 Postby MGC » Fri Feb 04, 2011 11:38 pm

Just can't see 2010 being a hotter summer than 1980 around here....what happened to the 1930's where most hight temp records still hold across the country?.....MGC
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