2014 Cyclones Retirement

[CrazyC83]

Meanwhile, the Atlantic IMO is pretty much a lock to have no retirements at this point. Arthur is the best chance, and I would say only about 10% right now.

[HurricaneRyan]

Gonzalo might be a candidate now. Wow!

[northjaxpro]

I think Gonzalo also will be a strong candidate as it had major impacts on the NE Caribbean islands while it was strengthening into what is now a major hurricane and potentially could seriously impact Bermuda before this week ends.

[somethingfunny]

Obviously there's no sure bet that Ana will have enough of an impact on Hawaii, but if it does merit retirement what would that mean for the Atlantic Ana scheduled for next season?

[Andrew92]

Obviously there's no sure bet that Ana will have enough of an impact on Hawaii, but if it does merit retirement what would that mean for the Atlantic Ana scheduled for next season?

Personally, I don't like the idea of having Ana on the Atlantic and CPAC lists at the same time. If it were up to me, if Ana gets retired in the CPAC for whatever it might do to Hawaii, I think it should go in the Atlantic beginning immediately. Like, a new A storm next year.

But I think I'd rather just see it go anyway, even if Hawaii keeps it. What if this storm hadn't occurred, but Hawaii was threatened by a storm with this name, and another storm was threatening another part of the US to begin the season, also named Ana? WAY too confusing for my liking.

-Andrew92

[TheStormExpert]

Obviously there's no sure bet that Ana will have enough of an impact on Hawaii, but if it does merit retirement what would that mean for the Atlantic Ana scheduled for next season?

Personally, I don't like the idea of having Ana on the Atlantic and CPAC lists at the same time. If it were up to me, if Ana gets retired in the CPAC for whatever it might do to Hawaii, I think it should go in the Atlantic beginning immediately. Like, a new A storm next year.

But I think I'd rather just see it go anyway, even if Hawaii keeps it. What if this storm hadn't occurred, but Hawaii was threatened by a storm with this name, and another storm was threatening another part of the US to begin the season, also named Ana? WAY too confusing for my liking.

-Andrew92

I seriously wonder why they would put the same exact name with the same exact spelling on the storm list for two different basins where in either one it could affect the U.S. in some way? IMO, they should of never had Ana on the C. Pacific list and only had it on the Atlantic list. Just my thoughts.

[Andrew92]

Or Ana could be in the CPAC list to begin with, while another name like Amber or Ariel is used for the Atlantic. (only suggesting those names since they've never been used in the Atlantic, though I do like Abby and Amy a lot too)

-Andrew92

[TheStormExpert]

Or Ana could be in the CPAC list to begin with, while another name like Amber or Ariel is used for the Atlantic. (only suggesting those names since they've never been used in the Atlantic, though I do like Abby and Amy a lot too)

-Andrew92

Could get real interesting if Ana causes major problem for Hawaii and gets retired.

[Steve820]

I also wonder what will happen if Ana becomes really devastating in Hawaii and gets retired? Maybe a new name might be introduced in the Atlantic before the start of next season! And, I would say that Gonzalo might have a decent shot at retirement once it's all said and done. It could get as bad as a re-Fabian (2003) for Bermuda.

[HurricaneBill]

I don't see the problem with Ana.

Celia, Dora, and Hilda are on the EPAC lists, despite being retired Atlantic names.

[Andrew92]

I don't see the problem with Ana.

Celia, Dora, and Hilda are on the EPAC lists, despite being retired Atlantic names.

I don't like that either. Call me a cynic, but if a name is retired in the Atlantic, it shouldn't be used in the EPAC either, and vice versa.

Still, if Ana hadn't been used this year, it would have had the potential to be used both in the Atlantic and the CPAC for next year. What if two storms with that same name and spelling occurred at the same time, and one was threatening Hawaii and the other somewhere in the mainland, such as the Gulf Coast?

Two storms, both named Ana, heading towards US coastline at the same time. Talk about confusing, especially if they have roughly the same intensity.

-Andrew92

[CrazyC83]

So many strange decisions to be made by the WMO...

[Yellow Evan]

I don't see the problem with Ana.

Celia, Dora, and Hilda are on the EPAC lists, despite being retired Atlantic names.

I don't like that either. Call me a cynic, but if a name is retired in the Atlantic, it shouldn't be used in the EPAC either, and vice versa.

Still, if Ana hadn't been used this year, it would have had the potential to be used both in the Atlantic and the CPAC for next year. What if two storms with that same name and spelling occurred at the same time, and one was threatening Hawaii and the other somewhere in the mainland, such as the Gulf Coast?

Two storms, both named Ana, heading towards US coastline at the same time. Talk about confusing, especially if they have roughly the same intensity.

-Andrew92

Should retired ATL/EPAC names be used in other basins like the WPAC, SPAC, and AUS or visa versa? That happens from time to time.

[Andrew92]

I don't see the problem with Ana.

Celia, Dora, and Hilda are on the EPAC lists, despite being retired Atlantic names.

I don't like that either. Call me a cynic, but if a name is retired in the Atlantic, it shouldn't be used in the EPAC either, and vice versa.

Still, if Ana hadn't been used this year, it would have had the potential to be used both in the Atlantic and the CPAC for next year. What if two storms with that same name and spelling occurred at the same time, and one was threatening Hawaii and the other somewhere in the mainland, such as the Gulf Coast?

Two storms, both named Ana, heading towards US coastline at the same time. Talk about confusing, especially if they have roughly the same intensity.

-Andrew92

Should retired ATL/EPAC names be used in other basins like the WPAC, SPAC, and AUS or visa versa? That happens from time to time.

I actually don't really have a beef with that. A lot of names that get retired in the Atlantic and EPAC are really only recognized in this general area, and the same is true in places like Australia and Asia. I certainly wouldn't be picking Tracy to be replacement name for any T female storm to be retired though since I think even we in America sometimes talk about that storm's impacts to this day, and my hope is Katrina won't be used again, at least for a very long time, elsewhere for the same reason. I know Typhoon Omar still gets some talk these days for what it did to Guam, so I would rather see a name like Owen or Oliver be used instead.

Celia, Dora, and Hilda were all retired for effects in the US, and flooding from the moisture of EPAC versions of these names could certainly cause major flooding damage in the Southwestern states. Hilda could arguably have been retired for its 1955 use though, as that one killed over 300 people, and I believe caused a lot of damage in Mexico. But we all know how consistent Mexico is with requesting names to be retired.

All in all though, I wouldn't be bothered with quite a few names that were retired in the Atlantic and EPAC being used in a place like Australia or the Indian Ocean. They pay little attention to our storms, which aren't impacting their territories at all. It's just the Atlantic and EPAC storms tend to threaten the same countries together (except for the Antilles, Bermuda, and Canada), and that's where my beef is.

But regardless of what this Ana does? My guess is Ana will stick in the Atlantic. I won't like it, but I think that's what will happen.

-Andrew92

[Cleveland Kent Evans]

I don't see the problem with Ana.

Celia, Dora, and Hilda are on the EPAC lists, despite being retired Atlantic names.

I don't like that either. Call me a cynic, but if a name is retired in the Atlantic, it shouldn't be used in the EPAC either, and vice versa.

Still, if Ana hadn't been used this year, it would have had the potential to be used both in the Atlantic and the CPAC for next year. What if two storms with that same name and spelling occurred at the same time, and one was threatening Hawaii and the other somewhere in the mainland, such as the Gulf Coast?

Two storms, both named Ana, heading towards US coastline at the same time. Talk about confusing, especially if they have roughly the same intensity.

-Andrew92

I appreciate your concern, but no one should call you a "cynic" because I "cynicism" is not a state that would lead you to such a conclusion. I think you meant to use a word like "alarmist" or "worrywort" here.

I am not sure that the people who created the CPAC list were paying attention to the other lists at all. What they were doing is using all names which are pronouncable in the Hawaiian language. I do think it would have been very bad and confusing to have had an Ana in both the CPAC and the Atlantic at the same time, given the modern media. But I'm not sure that having an Ana in the Atlantic next year would really be a big problem even if this year's CPAC Ana turns out to create a lot of news. It might even be good in terms of getting people on the East Coast to take a threat from an Ana seriously.

[jaguarjace]

All the Ana's in the Atlantic Basin. All were tropical storms.

[RainbowAppleJackDash]

Gonzalo?

[CrazyC83]

Yeah it looks like Gonzalo is headed for the at this rate. After only one use.

[RainbowAppleJackDash]

Yeah it looks like Gonzalo is headed for the at this rate. After only one use.

I feel sorry for those in Gonzalo at the moment. But look what's happening elsewhere on the Net

I think that would be the NHC and the WMO's reaction to name retirement candidates. Gonzalo? He's out at this rate. Any name suggestions?

[RainbowAppleJackDash]

So from Gustav => Gonzalo => ?
Any names that CAN'T be used?