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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#41 Postby galaxy401 » Thu Sep 20, 2018 7:18 pm

NHC is quite strict with this system.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#42 Postby EquusStorm » Thu Sep 20, 2018 11:16 pm

It's amazing how close we came to having two storms classified today. Make 98L a little less frontal and give 97L a completely unambiguous surface spin and they'd have little choice to upgrade 'em despite how strict they are with probs this year. Not that I can blame them too much given the hostile environments both storms are faced with; usually don't seem too keen on upgrading stuff that would only have hours to live at most which I guess is fair enough.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#43 Postby abajan » Fri Sep 21, 2018 4:37 am

Heading into some serious shear now. It has to contend with dry air too. That's a lethal mix. This probably won't develop at all. But we'll see.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#44 Postby NDG » Fri Sep 21, 2018 8:03 am

Naked LLC this morning, perhaps yesterday afternoon it classified as a weak TD before loosing all the convection during the night.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#45 Postby BensonTCwatcher » Fri Sep 21, 2018 8:36 am

Like a copperhead snake on your porch...not unhappy to see the "head" chopped off this system. After Florence, still have not been able to get back to Wilmington, I welcome the dry air and shear!
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#46 Postby Gustywind » Fri Sep 21, 2018 9:06 am

DATE/TIME LAT LON CLASSIFICATION STORM
21/1145 UTC 12.5N 51.9W T1.5/1.5 97L -- Atlantic
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#47 Postby cycloneye » Fri Sep 21, 2018 12:48 pm

2 PM TWO:

A weak low pressure area located about 500 miles east of the
Windward Islands is producing disorganized showers and
thunderstorms to the east of the center. Strong upper-level winds
and dry air should prevent significant development of this system
while it moves west-northwestward at around 10 mph.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...10 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...10 percent.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#48 Postby NDG » Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:45 pm

If 97L would have had model support for development or closer to the US it would had been upgraded to a TD shortly.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#49 Postby Sciencerocks » Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:57 pm

Convection fires back over the center and it certainly deserves to be upgraded.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#50 Postby northjaxpro » Fri Sep 21, 2018 3:23 pm

Sciencerocks wrote:Convection fires back over the center and it certainly deserves to be upgraded.

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Agree! I think the recent convective burst near the center merits this to be desigmated as a TD.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#51 Postby nativefloridian » Fri Sep 21, 2018 3:27 pm

4:20 PM EDT Update from NHC:
Shower and thunderstorm activity associated with a
well-defined low pressure system located about 500 miles east of the
Windward Islands has become better organized over the past few
hours, and a tropical depression could form later tonight or
Saturday. Strong upper-level winds and dry air are likely to
prevent additional development of this system by late this weekend
while it moves west-northwestward to northwestward at around 10 mph.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...medium...40 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...medium...40 percent.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#52 Postby galaxy401 » Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:11 pm

Reminds me of Henri in 2009. A disturbance that started facing strong wind shear but developed a strong convective burst near the center to get upgraded.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#53 Postby MGC » Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:25 pm

Nice tight circulation...lets hope the shear persists....MGC
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#54 Postby abajan » Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:38 pm

MGC wrote:Nice tight circulation...lets hope the shear persists....MGC

Some might beg to differ. I can think of a hilarious meme of a cat secretly wanting a storm to get bigger and bigger. But I won't share it here, because its text contains an f-bomb.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#55 Postby meriland29 » Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:43 pm

Honestly don't know how to keep up with the various discussions... all the sudden we have 97,98,99, and this new one next to 98 are in play....cheese and crackers! :eek: :double:
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#56 Postby galaxy401 » Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:51 pm

Depression could form tonight.

A well-defined low pressure system located about 400 miles east of
the Windward Islands has produced persistent thunderstorms just east
of its center for the past several hours. If current trends
continue, advisories could be issued on a tropical depression later
tonight or on Saturday. By late this weekend, strong upper-level
winds and dry air are likely to prevent further development of this
system while it moves west-northwestward to northwestward at
around 10 mph.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...medium...60 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...medium...60 percent.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#57 Postby meriland29 » Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:55 pm

"A well-defined low pressure system located about 400 miles east of
the Windward Islands has produced persistent thunderstorms just east
of its center for the past several hours. If current trends
continue, advisories could be issued on a tropical depression later
tonight or on Saturday. By late this weekend, strong upper-level
winds and dry air are likely to prevent further development of this
system while it moves west-northwestward to northwestward at
around 10 mph.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...medium...60 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...medium...60 percent."

NHC thinks this wont survive
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#58 Postby Gustywind » Fri Sep 21, 2018 8:31 pm

21/2345 UTC 13.1N 53.3W T1.5/1.5 97L
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#59 Postby edu2703 » Fri Sep 21, 2018 9:12 pm

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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#60 Postby Ubuntwo » Fri Sep 21, 2018 9:16 pm

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I'm guessing this may be the reason for the upgrade.
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