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Re: ATL: TERESA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#21 Postby AlphaToOmega » Fri Sep 24, 2021 3:06 pm

Tropical Storm Teresa might be the thing that saves the Continental United States from Hurricane Sam. However, it is still possible that Hurricane Sam impact the Maritime Provinces in Canada, which is something they do not need after Hurricane Larry. Moreover, it is possible that Hurricane Sam ignore Tropical Storm Teresa, with Hurricane Sam tracking through the Antilles or the Caribbean.
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Re: ATL: TERESA - Subtropical Storm - Discussion

#23 Postby supercane4867 » Fri Sep 24, 2021 3:26 pm

Another name down the toilet...
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Re: ATL: TERESA - Subtropical Storm - Discussion

#24 Postby Extratropical94 » Fri Sep 24, 2021 3:26 pm

And with that, all six naming lists have now reached the letter T at least once.
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Re: ATL: TERESA - Subtropical Storm - Discussion

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Re: ATL: TERESA - Subtropical Storm - Discussion

#26 Postby aspen » Fri Sep 24, 2021 3:57 pm

Looks worse than when it was upped to 70/70.
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Re: ATL: TERESA - Subtropical Storm - Discussion

#27 Postby Extratropical94 » Fri Sep 24, 2021 4:00 pm

I love the "quantity instead of quality" vibe in Landsea's discussion.

Teresa will not be long-lived.


It is worth noting that Teresa will likely be the 9th so-called
"shortie" of the 2021 hurricane season -- systems that are short-
lived and relatively weak.
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Re: ATL: TERESA - Subtropical Storm - Discussion

#28 Postby Hammy » Fri Sep 24, 2021 4:09 pm

This upgrade validates several potential subtropical systems that I've been looking into during the 1980s/90s.
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Re: ATL: TERESA - Subtropical Storm - Discussion

#29 Postby Teban54 » Fri Sep 24, 2021 4:17 pm

I'm expecting "waste of a name" and "should have never been classified" comments incoming, but this was clearly a STS at the time they upped it to 90/90. Presentation has slightly degraded since then, but that allows you to see the LLC even more clearly. This is a legit subtropical cyclone regardless of how short-lived it is.
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Re: ATL: TERESA - Subtropical Storm - Discussion

#30 Postby tolakram » Fri Sep 24, 2021 5:23 pm

Teban54 wrote:I'm expecting "waste of a name" and "should have never been classified" comments incoming, but this was clearly a STS at the time they upped it to 90/90. Presentation has slightly degraded since then, but that allows you to see the LLC even more clearly. This is a legit subtropical cyclone regardless of how short-lived it is.


That's not the point though, I know I have no issue using a name. It's the comparison to other busy seasons that really bothers me. :) This is yet another storm that might blow over a lawn chair. Take that Teresa! :lol:

NHC said shorty, it's now official lexicon. Yet another shorty.
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Re: ATL: TERESA - Subtropical Storm - Discussion

#31 Postby Sciencerocks » Fri Sep 24, 2021 9:09 pm

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Re: ATL: TERESA - Subtropical Storm - Discussion

#32 Postby Teban54 » Fri Sep 24, 2021 9:11 pm

Poor Teresa. She only got everyone's attention for just one hour.
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Re: ATL: TERESA - Subtropical Storm - Discussion

#33 Postby CrazyC83 » Fri Sep 24, 2021 9:14 pm

Hammy wrote:This upgrade validates several potential subtropical systems that I've been looking into during the 1980s/90s.


They will likely be added into HURDAT as tropical or subtropical storms once reanalysis gets there.
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Re: ATL: TERESA - Subtropical Storm - Discussion

#34 Postby WiscoWx02 » Fri Sep 24, 2021 9:54 pm

Would it have been named 30 years ago? Nope. But thanks to better technology that has improved so much in just the last few years alone, we can pick up on these "shorties". Definitely deserves a name IMO.
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Re: ATL: TERESA - Subtropical Storm - Discussion

#35 Postby mitchell » Sat Sep 25, 2021 8:10 am

tolakram wrote:It's the comparison to other busy seasons that really bothers me.


Yep, its like comparing any data sets that were collected over time using different methods of collection and with varying levels of effort. You CANT just straight up compare the data without considering context and judgement before drawing conclusions.
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Re: ATL: TERESA - Subtropical Depression - Discussion

#36 Postby cycloneye » Sat Sep 25, 2021 10:09 am

Subtropical Depression Teresa Discussion Number 4
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL192021
1100 AM AST Sat Sep 25 2021

Teresa has been devoid of deep convection for more than 12 hours
now. The cloud pattern consists of a swirl of low-level clouds and
a band of showers and thunderstorms located about 250 n mi north of
the center. This patch of convection is detached from the
low-level circulation, and it appears to be more involved with an
upper-level trough to the northeast of Teresa. A 1210 UTC ASCAT-A
pass shows that the winds within that convection have decreased,
with several vectors in the 25 to 30 kt range. Based on that
data, the intensity is lowered to 30 kt, making Teresa a
subtropical depression.

Teresa is unlikely to redevelop any convection near its center as
strong west-southwesterly wind shear continues over the cyclone.
This will prevent any opportunity for strengthening. Teresa is
expected to become a remnant low later today or this evening and
dissipate on Sunday. The global models are in good agreement with
this scenario.

Teresa has moved little during the past 12 hours, so a stationary
motion is currently indicated for this advisory. However, a motion
toward the northeast should begin within the next few hours and
continue through dissipation as the cyclone moves in the flow ahead
of a deep-layer trough. The track forecast was adjusted a little
to the east of the previous advisory, and is in agreement with the
model consensus.


FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 25/1500Z 34.3N 65.0W 30 KT 35 MPH
12H 26/0000Z 35.4N 64.4W 30 KT 35 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW
24H 26/1200Z 37.2N 62.6W 30 KT 35 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW
36H 27/0000Z...DISSIPATED

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Re: ATL: TERESA - Subtropical Depression - Discussion

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Re: ATL: TERESA - Subtropical Depression - Discussion

#38 Postby AlphaToOmega » Sat Sep 25, 2021 2:04 pm

RIP Teresa
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Re: ATL: TERESA - Subtropical Depression - Discussion

#39 Postby galaxy401 » Sat Sep 25, 2021 3:16 pm

Teresa did all that work just to get named and once she got that designation, she immediately decided to die off since her mission was accomplished.
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Re: ATL: TERESA - Subtropical Depression - Discussion

#40 Postby DioBrando » Sat Sep 25, 2021 3:45 pm

F in the chat buddy boyos:


...TERESA WEAKENS TO A SUBTROPICAL DEPRESSION... ...EXPECTED TO BECOME A REMNANT LOW BY TONIGHT...
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