2022 Tropical Cyclone Retirements: Fiona / Ian retired--New names for 2028 list=Farrah / Idris

[Iceresistance]

What will 2022 hold in Name Retirements in Tropical Cyclones?

[Teban54]

I thought me posting this thread on the bell ringing day last year (edit: 2021) was early... Now we have this while still in 2021 lol.

[Category5Kaiju]

If this section is intended for just the Atlantic basin, then we're likely in for about an 8-month wait to find out. If in general, it'll likely be some very strong South Pacific or WPAC storm.

[Teban54]

If this section is intended for just the Atlantic basin, then we're likely in for about an 8-month wait to find out. If in general, it'll likely be some very strong South Pacific or WPAC storm.

These threads are generally for global cyclone retirements, as WPAC/EPAC retirements have frequently been discussed here. So aside from the southern hemisphere, it might also get activity if we end up with an early WPAC monster (like Surigae) that actually makes landfall.

[CrazyC83]

With this damage and what lies ahead, this may be the last storm named Fiona. Even a relatively slow start can't stop destructive storms.

[Category5Kaiju]

Yup, was just thinking about mentioning that if everything goes as wrong as they can, Fiona may be done after this season.

Top 4 personal favorite storm names if Fiona gets replaced: Freya, Flavia, Fern, Fatima

[CrazyC83]

I'm not sure what the damage estimates are, but I suspect it will be over $10 billion, maybe $20 billion. That would get Fiona retired.

[AJC3]

With this damage and what lies ahead, this may be the last storm named Fiona. Even a relatively slow start can't stop destructive storms.

Agreed. The flooding impacts for PR alone merit retirement.

[Category5Kaiju]

Not exactly sure if this will age like wine or milk, but I'm starting to think we may need a new H female name for List 2 if 98L follows some of the model guidance. Thank goodness this won't be a letter later, or else we'll be dealing with a headache yet again in terms of names lol.

The good thing is there's a whole bunch of female H names that can be used. Heather? Holly? Heidi? Hailey? Mmm, lots of them

[CrazyC83]

Not exactly sure if this will age like wine or milk, but I'm starting to think we may need a new H female name for List 2 if 98L follows some of the model guidance. Thank goodness this won't be a letter later, or else we'll be dealing with a headache yet again in terms of names lol.

The good thing is there's a whole bunch of female H names that can be used. Heather? Holly? Heidi? Hailey? Mmm, lots of them

Very true, it looks like unless the eastern wave rushes out that the I curse will not go this year. But yeah, Heather sounds like a good pick. As far as replacing Fiona, my picks are Faith, Filomena or Frieda.

[CrazyC83]

Names NOT available for replacement names:

Female F names - Fay, Felicia, Fernanda, Fifi, Flor, Flora, Florence, Flossie, Fran, Frances, Francine

[Cleveland Kent Evans]

If Fiona gets retired I think a good replacement would be Fabiola, which is the female "F" name that has most recently been popular in Puerto Rico.

[NorthieStangl]

With this damage and what lies ahead, this may be the last storm named Fiona. Even a relatively slow start can't stop destructive storms.

Agreed. The flooding impacts for PR alone merit retirement.

I think it will be CANADA that will request Fiona's retirement. The way it looks, I won't be surprised if Fiona will end up being Canada's first billion-dollars storm.

[Category5Kaiju]

Question: does the WMO have some sort of vendetta against 4 syllable names? I've noticed that at least on the standard EPAC and Atlantic lists, there seem to be only 3 names that are 4 syllables long: Olivia, Isaias, and Veronica.

[Iceresistance]

Question: does the WMO have some sort of vendetta against 4 syllable names? I've noticed that at least on the standard EPAC and Atlantic lists, there seem to be only 3 names that are 4 syllables long: Olivia, Isaias, and Veronica.

I don't think so, I was thinking that they are trying to put out names that are easy to say and pronounce.

[Cleveland Kent Evans]

Question: does the WMO have some sort of vendetta against 4 syllable names? I've noticed that at least on the standard EPAC and Atlantic lists, there seem to be only 3 names that are 4 syllables long: Olivia, Isaias, and Veronica.

I think calling this a "vendetta" is hyperbole, but it makes perfect sense that names chosen for the tropical storm lists should be short. The whole purpose of giving them names is to give them a quick recognizable designation that will differentiate them from other storms active at the same time. Short names are better for quick communication in the media.

[AnnularCane]

Question: does the WMO have some sort of vendetta against 4 syllable names? I've noticed that at least on the standard EPAC and Atlantic lists, there seem to be only 3 names that are 4 syllables long: Olivia, Isaias, and Veronica.

I think calling this a "vendetta" is hyperbole, but it makes perfect sense that names chosen for the tropical storm lists should be short. The whole purpose of giving them names is to give them a quick recognizable designation that will differentiate them from other storms active at the same time. Short names are better for quick communication in the media.

Didn't stop them from coming up with Isaias. Of course I guess they can't exactly afford to be too picky when it comes to the I names.

[NorthieStangl]

Not exactly sure if this will age like wine or milk, but I'm starting to think we may need a new H female name for List 2 if 98L follows some of the model guidance. Thank goodness this won't be a letter later, or else we'll be dealing with a headache yet again in terms of names lol.

The good thing is there's a whole bunch of female H names that can be used. Heather? Holly? Heidi? Hailey? Mmm, lots of them

Oops, spoke too soon. Now we need to figure out yet another male I name. Although there's a chance that it will fizzle out and underperform our expectations.

[Category5Kaiju]

Not exactly sure if this will age like wine or milk, but I'm starting to think we may need a new H female name for List 2 if 98L follows some of the model guidance. Thank goodness this won't be a letter later, or else we'll be dealing with a headache yet again in terms of names lol.

The good thing is there's a whole bunch of female H names that can be used. Heather? Holly? Heidi? Hailey? Mmm, lots of them

Oops, spoke too soon. Now we need to figure out yet another male I name. Although there's a chance that it will fizzle out and underperform our expectations.

I think the lesson I learned is especially if it's peak season and there are multiple AOIs, you should never automatically assume that one AOI will be named "so and so." Clearly the Hermine/Ian debacle showed how extremely close names can be assigned and why pre-naming systems is a bad idea

[Torino]

Fiona - Felicity, Frida, Farrah, Flavia, Faith
Ian - Irving, Ira, Idris, Ivor, Ives