2022 Tropical Cyclone Retirements: Fiona / Ian retired--New names for 2028 list=Farrah / Idris

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Re: 2022 Cyclones Retirement

#141 Postby NorthieStangl » Sat Mar 11, 2023 1:43 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:Based on the TCR and a lot of Julia's deaths being in Venezuela on the fringes, I'd knock back the probability some as they are likely not a country that would think much about it.

Still, once the WMO meets, we can be pretty confident that Fiona and Ian will be retired.


Any idea when that meeting will take place?

Personally I wouldn't be surprised if Costa Rica acts as an ambassador again and retire Julia on behalf of other Central American countries.
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Re: 2022 Cyclones Retirement

#142 Postby Category5Kaiju » Sat Mar 11, 2023 4:39 pm

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CrazyC83 wrote:Based on the TCR and a lot of Julia's deaths being in Venezuela on the fringes, I'd knock back the probability some as they are likely not a country that would think much about it.

Still, once the WMO meets, we can be pretty confident that Fiona and Ian will be retired.


Any idea when that meeting will take place?

Personally I wouldn't be surprised if Costa Rica acts as an ambassador again and retire Julia on behalf of other Central American countries.


It’s going to be during the last several days of March. Takes place in Costa Rica too

https://public.wmo.int/en/events/meetings
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Re: 2022 Cyclones Retirement

#143 Postby AnnularCane » Sat Mar 11, 2023 5:10 pm

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CrazyC83 wrote:Based on the TCR and a lot of Julia's deaths being in Venezuela on the fringes, I'd knock back the probability some as they are likely not a country that would think much about it.

Still, once the WMO meets, we can be pretty confident that Fiona and Ian will be retired.


Any idea when that meeting will take place?

Personally I wouldn't be surprised if Costa Rica acts as an ambassador again and retire Julia on behalf of other Central American countries.


It’s going to be during the last several days of March. Takes place in Costa Rica too

https://public.wmo.int/en/events/meetings



Does this mean Julia is doomed? :(

Looks like it starts on my birthday.
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Re: 2022 Cyclones Retirement

#144 Postby JetFuel_SE » Mon Mar 13, 2023 2:01 am

AnnularCane wrote:
Category5Kaiju wrote:
NorthieStangl wrote:
Any idea when that meeting will take place?

Personally I wouldn't be surprised if Costa Rica acts as an ambassador again and retire Julia on behalf of other Central American countries.


It’s going to be during the last several days of March. Takes place in Costa Rica too

https://public.wmo.int/en/events/meetings



Does this mean Julia is doomed? :(

Looks like it starts on my birthday.


The new name would probably be something similar to the name used before Julia (Jeanne)
I'm betting on Jeannette because they have no creativity what-so-ever, (Rina replacing Rita, Julian and Julia being on consecutive lists, and also Juliette in the EPAC)
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Re: 2022 Cyclones Retirement

#145 Postby Category5Kaiju » Mon Mar 13, 2023 9:18 am

JetFuel_SE wrote:
AnnularCane wrote:
Category5Kaiju wrote:
It’s going to be during the last several days of March. Takes place in Costa Rica too

https://public.wmo.int/en/events/meetings



Does this mean Julia is doomed? :(

Looks like it starts on my birthday.


The new name would probably be something similar to the name used before Julia (Jeanne)
I'm betting on Jeannette because they have no creativity what-so-ever, (Rina replacing Rita, Julian and Julia being on consecutive lists, and also Juliette in the EPAC)


It seems like a recurrent theme with replacement names is that they oftentimes reflect the preferences of the cultures of the regions impacted by the to-be-retired storm. Some recent examples that I can think of at the top of my head include Ida --> Imani, with Imani being a very common African-American female name (and the impacted region being Eastern Louisiana, which has a high population of African-Americans) and Maria --> Margot, with Margot being a French female name (reflective of Dominica, which was ravaged by Maria). In addition, it is also not uncommon to see replacement names have the same number of syllables as the to-be-replaced name.

Now as far as what you are saying, while Jeannette might indeed be possible, assuming Julia does somehow get banished, I'm more along the betting lines that the replacement name could be Jennifer or Jessica (3 syllables like Julia, also common as first names in Latina America, including Central America where Julia impacted).

Hurricane name guessing is always fun. There's no denying that :lol:
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Re: 2022 Cyclones Retirement

#146 Postby HurakaYoshi » Sat Mar 25, 2023 4:50 pm

With the WMO RA IV Hurricane Committee meeting starting this coming Monday, I'm confident that Fiona and Ian will be retired (NATL). I'm not sure about Julia, but I'm more leant towards not. Plus, I don't expect any retirements in the EPAC.
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Re: 2022 Cyclones Retirement

#147 Postby Category5Kaiju » Sat Mar 25, 2023 4:58 pm

HurakaYoshi wrote:With the WMO RA IV Hurricane Committee meeting starting this coming Monday, I'm confident that Fiona and Ian will be retired (NATL). I'm not sure about Julia, but I'm more leant towards not. Plus, I don't expect any retirements in the EPAC.


Fiona's total damage has (at least according to Wikipedia) been updated to be more than 6 billion US dollars, so any doubts about it not getting retired because it did not impact any region at Cat 4 strength (which is a really weak reason anyway given the impacts it brought to Canada and Puerto Rico, but also a reason I have heard a handful of people on social media say) should be erased.
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Re: 2022 Cyclones Retirement

#148 Postby HurakaYoshi » Sat Mar 25, 2023 5:16 pm

Category5Kaiju wrote:
HurakaYoshi wrote:With the WMO RA IV Hurricane Committee meeting starting this coming Monday, I'm confident that Fiona and Ian will be retired (NATL). I'm not sure about Julia, but I'm more leant towards not. Plus, I don't expect any retirements in the EPAC.


Fiona's total damage has (at least according to Wikipedia) been updated to be more than 6 billion US dollars, so any doubts about it not getting retired because it did not impact any region at Cat 4 strength (which is a really weak reason anyway given the impacts it brought to Canada and Puerto Rico, but also a reason I have heard a handful of people on social media say) should be erased.


Fiona was also among the wettest cyclones in Guadalupe, so that justifies retirement as well.
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Re: 2022 Cyclones Retirement

#149 Postby Category5Kaiju » Mon Mar 27, 2023 10:37 am

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Re: 2022 Cyclones Retirement

#150 Postby JetFuel_SE » Mon Mar 27, 2023 4:08 pm

So Fiona is almost certainly gone.
 https://twitter.com/ECCC_CHC/status/1640432299253592070


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Re: 2022 Cyclones Retirement

#151 Postby Torino » Mon Mar 27, 2023 6:04 pm

My guess is Felicity to replace Fiona and Ivor to replace Ian. Julia stays.
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Re: 2022 Cyclones Retirement

#152 Postby Category5Kaiju » Mon Mar 27, 2023 6:16 pm

As always, I’ll be picking my three names for each potential replacement before the official decisions are stated on Wednesday.

Fiona == Faith, Francesca, or Fatima

Ian == Irving, Idris, or Ingmar

(I’m going to go on a limb here and predict that the WMO will not pick a 4 syllable name for any replacement names)
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Re: 2022 Cyclones Retirement

#153 Postby PavelGaborik10 » Mon Mar 27, 2023 6:57 pm

Category5Kaiju wrote:
HurakaYoshi wrote:With the WMO RA IV Hurricane Committee meeting starting this coming Monday, I'm confident that Fiona and Ian will be retired (NATL). I'm not sure about Julia, but I'm more leant towards not. Plus, I don't expect any retirements in the EPAC.


Fiona's total damage has (at least according to Wikipedia) been updated to be more than 6 billion US dollars, so any doubts about it not getting retired because it did not impact any region at Cat 4 strength (which is a really weak reason anyway given the impacts it brought to Canada and Puerto Rico, but also a reason I have heard a handful of people on social media say) should be erased.


Another key with Fiona is the overwhelming majority of her most destructive damage(surge, waves) that wiped out entire communities isn't actually tallied in the totals in Canada, they only count insured damages and those damages aren't covered.

The actual damage totals are significantly higher.
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Re: 2022 Cyclones Retirement

#154 Postby CrazyC83 » Tue Mar 28, 2023 3:47 pm

PavelGaborik10 wrote:
Category5Kaiju wrote:
HurakaYoshi wrote:With the WMO RA IV Hurricane Committee meeting starting this coming Monday, I'm confident that Fiona and Ian will be retired (NATL). I'm not sure about Julia, but I'm more leant towards not. Plus, I don't expect any retirements in the EPAC.


Fiona's total damage has (at least according to Wikipedia) been updated to be more than 6 billion US dollars, so any doubts about it not getting retired because it did not impact any region at Cat 4 strength (which is a really weak reason anyway given the impacts it brought to Canada and Puerto Rico, but also a reason I have heard a handful of people on social media say) should be erased.


Another key with Fiona is the overwhelming majority of her most destructive damage(surge, waves) that wiped out entire communities isn't actually tallied in the totals in Canada, they only count insured damages and those damages aren't covered.

The actual damage totals are significantly higher.


I think the real damage from Fiona in Canada was probably $2 billion or more.
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Re: 2022 Cyclones Retirement

#155 Postby AnnularCane » Wed Mar 29, 2023 10:17 am




Did they ever give a time?

(I'm jumping out of my skin. lol)
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Re: 2022 Cyclones Retirement

#156 Postby Category5Kaiju » Wed Mar 29, 2023 10:20 am

AnnularCane wrote:



Did they ever give a time?

(I'm jumping out of my skin. lol)


It should be within the next several hours. At least based on the 43rd and 44th meetings, the WMO likes to send out a Tweet saying they are discussing names, and then a subsequent Tweet with their final decisions.
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Re: 2022 Cyclones Retirement

#157 Postby Buck » Wed Mar 29, 2023 1:03 pm

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Re: 2022 Cyclones Retirement

#158 Postby cycloneye » Wed Mar 29, 2023 1:03 pm

Fiona and Ian retired Farrah and Idris will be the replacement names for 2028.

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Re: 2022 Tropical Cyclone Retirements: Fiona/ Ian retired

#159 Postby Category5Kaiju » Wed Mar 29, 2023 1:18 pm

Wow, I really like the new names. Kind of figured Idris could replace Ian. But Farrah too? I like the Middle Eastern-roots flavor here!
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Re: 2022 Tropical Cyclone Retirements: Fiona / Ian retired--New names for 2028 list=Farrah / Idris

#160 Postby cycloneye » Wed Mar 29, 2023 1:30 pm

I thought that Julia was also going to be retired as it caused 35 deaths in CentralAmerica per TCR report.

Julia was responsible for 35 direct deaths, 4 across portions of Central America, and all of
the fatalities appear to be related to flash flooding and associated mudslides. The fatality
breakdown consists of 14 in Guatemala, 10 in El Salvador, 5 in Nicaragua, 4 in Honduras, and 2
in Panama. In addition, there were 54 indirect flood fatalities in Venezuela.
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