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Biggest suprise hurricanes

#1 Postby Jim Cantore » Sun Aug 07, 2005 10:15 pm

Ok we had a post about biggest hurricane duds now how about biggest suprises

I must first mention a dud that was never mentioned and that was frances last year look at the facts there florida was horrifyed for another charley.

Of course Charley springs to my mind as a suprise this thing just exploded before landfall

Andrew was another even bigger one because it wasn't supposed to do anything and it's damage total is yet to be challanged

Opal in 1995 dispite weakening really scared the pants off the panhandle and still even weaker devestated the area

Jeanne last year was looking done for but looped and exploded into a potent hurricane

the 1935 labor day storm hits andros island as a cat one and aboslutely 100% EXPLODES and we know the rest of that

Dennis and Emily who would of thought we'd have two near cat 5s in July?

Floyd to me is both a dud and a suprise

A dud in the fact that at 155 if it would of hit it would of been worse then Andrew and I've always stood by that

But even alot weaker it is among the all time elite and set a new standard for "widespread damage by flooding 1000 miles of the east U.S (including my area)

Dennis in 1999 suprised me I thought it was dead on several points but hit as almost a hurricane

Isidore in 2002 I thought it was dead too but almost was a hurricane when it hit the U.S (I think it was alot closer to hurricane srength then most think)

Alicia in 1983

a hurricane in a big city thats new

any others you guys have?
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#2 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Sun Aug 07, 2005 10:17 pm

For the nhc, hurricane Alex they thought he was going to be a weak tropical storm. Then BOOM!!! Then fellowed by Mitch,Emily,Dennis,Andrew,.

Those where suprizing.
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#3 Postby Jim Cantore » Sun Aug 07, 2005 10:21 pm

Alex I feel like a moron for forgeting that one

That suprised everyone even the most expenenced
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#4 Postby Patrick99 » Sun Aug 07, 2005 10:31 pm

The 1935 storm has to be the mother of all surprise storms.
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#5 Postby Ixolib » Sun Aug 07, 2005 10:31 pm

I'll speak to surprise in the form of limited warning. Of course the year was 1969 and technology was NO WHERE near where it is now - so the reasons are obvious. Prior to Camille's landfall, the coast had only about 12 actual hours to react. Because I was quite a bit younger then ( :D ), I'm not sure what the factors were, but to this day, shrimp boat and charter boat captains speak of that limited warning on a regular basis - even 36 years later.

Whether Camille "bombed" in the few hours just prior to landfall might be better explained by a more knowledgeable poster. Any takers?
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#6 Postby wxmann_91 » Sun Aug 07, 2005 10:37 pm

What about Keith in 2000?
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#7 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Sun Aug 07, 2005 10:38 pm

I watched Keith he was a big suprize!!!


Hurricane Mitch taking that south turn it into central America is another. :roll:
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#8 Postby Ivanhater » Sun Aug 07, 2005 10:39 pm

celia, texas was expecting a cat 1 but got a cat 3
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#9 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Sun Aug 07, 2005 10:41 pm

Hurricane CLAUDETTE, which went from a disoreganized tropical storm to having a clear eye. In reports of winds of over 95 with guest to over 105 mph.
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#10 Postby wxmann_91 » Sun Aug 07, 2005 10:47 pm

Don't forget Gilbert - 888 mb. Dennis and Emily (2005), Mitch (1998), Andrew (1992), Camille (1969), Labor Day 1935, Lili and Isidore (2002), Galveston 1900, Long Island Express 1938, Celia (1970), Opal (1995), Ivan (2004), Allen (1980), Frederic and David (1979), Cleo (1964), Hugo (1989), Alicia (1983), and a slew of other infamous hurricanes could also be designated as "surprise" hurricanes.

BTW, just read the Keith TC report and found that its pressure dropped 61 mb in 37 hour :eek: . But even more amazing was that while it was stalled just off the coast of Belize as a Cat 4, its winds blew the water out of the Bay of Chetumal, so there was a surge of -4 ft, and people could actually walk on the bottom of the bay. :eek: :eek: :eek:

EDIT: Charley last year was a BIG surprise as well.......
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#11 Postby Swimdude » Sun Aug 07, 2005 10:50 pm

Ok, we're not talking strong hurricanes, y'all. Ones that snuck up on everyone. What about that storm... Grace, I believe it was... That they thought was just a wave in the Atlantic, and turned out to be a 65 mph TS?
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#12 Postby Jim Cantore » Sun Aug 07, 2005 10:52 pm

Speaking of storms named grace what about "The Perfect Storm" NOBODY would have seen such an event ahead of time or would want to believe it
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#13 Postby wxmann_91 » Sun Aug 07, 2005 10:54 pm

OK what about Noel in 2001? It jumped from nothing to hurricane rather quickly...one advisory.
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#14 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Sun Aug 07, 2005 10:54 pm

The perfect storm had a hurricane inside of it!!!

Kind of cool!!!

Speaking of Grace the one a few years ago was a tropical trough.
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#15 Postby wxmann_91 » Sun Aug 07, 2005 10:57 pm

BTW, just thinking, it doesn't just have to be hurricanes, it could be tropical storms as well. The ones I immediately think of are Claudette (1979), Alberto (1994), and of course Allison (2001).
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#16 Postby Jim Cantore » Sun Aug 07, 2005 10:58 pm

Danny in 1997 was a cold front
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#17 Postby Shoshana » Sun Aug 07, 2005 11:07 pm

For sure it was the 1943 "Surprise" Hurricane.

http://www.hurricaneconsulting.net/home/surprise.htm

Also known as 1943's Hurricane #1. And the first recorded instance of a flight into a hurricane's eye.

It was in the dead of summer along the upper Texas coast. The nation was rightfully preoccupied with the events of the Second World War. All news underwent censorship. Because of German U-boat activity expected in the Gulf of Mexico, all ship's radio broadcasts were silenced. This included any reports of weather ... even adverse weather such as a hurricane. Weather Bureau forecasters in 1943 relied almost exclusively on reports from ships at sea and land-based weather offices in cities and airports for the data used to issue storm warnings. Satellite imagery was 20 years away .. radar over a decade. Aircraft reconnaissance was soon to be born ... but not yet.

With those constraints in mind, one can see why the hurricane that hit the Houston-Galveston area on July 27, 1943 came without adequate warning. Newspaper accounts of the storm describe it as the "worst since 1915." The 1915 hurricane tested the famous Galveston seawall and killed over 275 people. The July 27, 1943 hurricane killed a reported 19 people, injured hundreds and caused significant property damage ($17,000,000, COE, 1972) through much of the metropolitan area.


See the article for more info.

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#18 Postby Anonymous » Sun Aug 07, 2005 11:21 pm

Swimdude wrote:Ok, we're not talking strong hurricanes, y'all. Ones that snuck up on everyone. What about that storm... Grace, I believe it was... That they thought was just a wave in the Atlantic, and turned out to be a 65 mph TS?


It was Emily 1999.
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#19 Postby HurricaneBill » Mon Aug 08, 2005 1:04 am

Hurricane Juan in 2003 weakened much slower than anticipated.

Halifax was expecting a Category 1 and Juan landfalled as a Category 2.

Usually a fast moving hurricane in the north Atlantic will undergo extratropical transition.

Because Juan was moving over the Gulf Stream, he was able to remain tropical for a longer period of time and did not begin extratropical transition until close to landfall.

Hurricane Bob in 1991 is another storm that was slow to become extratropical.

Bob retained a tropical structure and hit New England as a strong Category 2. Bob did not begin undergoing extratropical transition until after landfalling on Cape Cod.
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#20 Postby AussieMark » Mon Aug 08, 2005 2:29 am

does Lennys eastward track thru the Caribbean Sea count?
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