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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

#101 Postby TheStormExpert » Thu May 14, 2020 7:51 pm

Nothing more than a sharp trough axis at the moment.

 https://twitter.com/hurrtrackerapp/status/1261095647140347905


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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

#102 Postby Ken711 » Thu May 14, 2020 8:07 pm

Levi Cowan's take on a potential "Arthur" named storm.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOPPJW-Qa5k
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

#103 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu May 14, 2020 8:10 pm

looky looky..... WNW wind.. Surface circ is likely closed.. just the beginning of course.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

#104 Postby Incident_MET » Thu May 14, 2020 8:24 pm

I wouldn’t necessarily assume that nw wind is due to large scale influences. It may simply be a sea breeze.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

#105 Postby Ubuntwo » Thu May 14, 2020 8:30 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:Nothing more than a sharp trough axis at the moment.

https://twitter.com/hurrtrackerapp/status/1261095647140347905

While it's probably not closed, this "data" is just the GFS in a pretty layout. Not really reliable
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

#106 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu May 14, 2020 8:34 pm

Incident_MET wrote:I wouldn’t necessarily assume that nw wind is due to large scale influences. It may simply be a sea breeze.


True. though given the surrounding surface obs, meso analysis, radar ( although looking at about 8k) the location of the vort from earlier projected out on its cyclonic loop, does line up..

also I have been watching this particular surface ob all afternoon through the earlier sea breeze that sparked tstorms that were moving west to east and the outflow boundaries from those t-storms.

if it were to be a sea breeze it would have had a component with the prevailing winds which are out of the east ENE.

for this to be wnw at sea level there is likely a weak surface reflection to all the 850 to 925 mb vorticity..
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

#107 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu May 14, 2020 8:37 pm

Ubuntwo wrote:
TheStormExpert wrote:Nothing more than a sharp trough axis at the moment.

https://twitter.com/hurrtrackerapp/status/1261095647140347905

While it's probably not closed, this "data" is just the GFS in a pretty layout. Not really reliable


yes of course.. though it is based off of surrounding obs and data. not 100% but if you cant rely on initialized data then how can you rely on the remainder of the forecast period from the model ?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

#108 Postby Kat5 » Thu May 14, 2020 9:04 pm

Starting to get some much needed rain here in Broward from 90L. Hoping for another 2 inches to end this drought.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

#109 Postby Evil Jeremy » Thu May 14, 2020 9:13 pm

Kat5 wrote:Starting to get some much needed rain here in Broward from 90L. Hoping for another 2 inches to end this drought.


I'm really feeling that squall now in Plantation.... It's the sound of music to me. There's even a croaking frog.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

#110 Postby floridasun78 » Thu May 14, 2020 9:19 pm

we got pretty good gust shower here by mia airport look like more too come from coast line
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

#111 Postby Jr0d » Thu May 14, 2020 9:20 pm

Looking ragged right now, not expecting TC formation in the next 12 hours. For a few hours earlier today it looked like it was getting its act together.

So far it is developing as expected or at least in line with the GFS.

I am thinking we will have not have a storm until Saturday.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

#112 Postby floridasun78 » Thu May 14, 2020 9:23 pm

Jr0d wrote:Looking ragged right now, not expecting TC formation in the next 12 hours. For a few hours earlier today it looked like it was getting its act together.

So far it is developing as expected or at least in line with the GFS.

I am thinking we will have not have a storm until Saturday.

south fl need rain not tropical system so good will wait untill pass bahama
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

#113 Postby Miami Storm Tracker » Thu May 14, 2020 9:23 pm

Am I seeing the radar loop wrong or is the COC that was between KW and Cuba breaking down and another one forming
closer to the upper keys Florida city area? of course off the coast to be clearLOL,
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

#114 Postby Ubuntwo » Thu May 14, 2020 9:31 pm

floridasun78 wrote:
Jr0d wrote:Looking ragged right now, not expecting TC formation in the next 12 hours. For a few hours earlier today it looked like it was getting its act together.

So far it is developing as expected or at least in line with the GFS.

I am thinking we will have not have a storm until Saturday.

south fl need rain not tropical system so good will wait untill pass bahama

No let's take it we need the rain!
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

#115 Postby chaser1 » Thu May 14, 2020 9:50 pm

Miami Storm Tracker wrote:Am I seeing the radar loop wrong or is the COC that was between KW and Cuba breaking down and another one forming
closer to the upper keys Florida city area? of course off the coast to be clearLOL,


So hard to say with these formative blobs. On top of that, this will likely start off fairly broad. You could be right but my bet right now would be to continue looking a bit closer to the Cuban coastline as Aric alluded to a little while ago and with a slightly improved hint of 850mb turning between the Cuban coast and Andros later tomorrow. I see NHC probably tagging this one sometime on Sunday. My only slight hesitation there is that this isn't in the GOM. I'd start flying repetitive recon asap (NOT lol)
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

#116 Postby SFLcane » Thu May 14, 2020 9:59 pm

Overall satellite and radar presentation not impressive tonight. Still has a long ways to go. As gator mentioned rainfall never makes onshore mainland sfl.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

#117 Postby cycloneye » Thu May 14, 2020 10:40 pm

Flareup.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

#118 Postby GCANE » Fri May 15, 2020 4:08 am

Some mid-level moisture from Cuba is moving into the dry line and firing off shear-induced convection.
Looks like the bottom of the shortwave will reach the western end of Cuba in about 4 hours and is starting to develop a dramtic negative tilt.
It should start interacting with the mid-level vort, currently over Cuba in about 8 hours.
At that point, should see a dramatic drop in shear.
Surface pressure taking a nice dive at Vaca Key.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

#119 Postby GCANE » Fri May 15, 2020 4:57 am

Expanding and deepening CAPE ridge in the Straits.
Up to 2500 now.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

#120 Postby GCANE » Fri May 15, 2020 5:06 am

Tail end of the shortwave is just about at the tip of Cuba now.

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