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#101 Postby bubba hotep » Thu Dec 01, 2022 7:42 pm
harp wrote:Aaand…the end of the GFS has extreme SE Texas and south Louisiana in the …….mid to upper 70’s! That’s December 17th. I know it’s La La land, but sheesh!!!
Trough pulling up warm Gulf air out ahead of it. Could certainly happen. More interesting, the 18z GEFS holds the block but is also recharging our source region. This is the 5-day followed by the 1-day


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#102 Postby Iceresistance » Thu Dec 01, 2022 7:46 pm
harp wrote:Iceresistance wrote:harp wrote:Aaand…the end of the GFS has extreme SE Texas and south Louisiana in the …….mid to upper 70’s! That’s December 17th. I know it’s La La land, but sheesh!!!
It might be further, but look at the 12z CFS on Pivotal Weather!

Would you mind posting it?
I will try
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#103 Postby Ntxw » Thu Dec 01, 2022 8:22 pm
I'm curious if the PNA forecasts have been premature. We've seen guidance after the block swing from west trof, to east trof, now to central. It's wild the run to run movements. We won't know how it will set up shop until the block happens of course. Rooting for a retrograde to SE Canada. That will dump right into TX.
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#104 Postby Ntxw » Thu Dec 01, 2022 8:23 pm
Iceresistance wrote:harp wrote:Iceresistance wrote:It might be further, but look at the 12z CFS on Pivotal Weather!

Would you mind posting it?
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CFS is white Christmas for much of TX and brutally cold through New Years...yeah...way out there.
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#105 Postby harp » Thu Dec 01, 2022 8:46 pm
Ntxw wrote:Iceresistance wrote:harp wrote:Would you mind posting it?
I will try
CFS is white Christmas for much of TX and brutally cold through New Years...yeah...way out there.
Louisiana?
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#106 Postby Iceresistance » Thu Dec 01, 2022 9:03 pm
harp wrote:Ntxw wrote:Iceresistance wrote:I will try
CFS is white Christmas for much of TX and brutally cold through New Years...yeah...way out there.
Louisiana?
Yep, they also get smacked.
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#107 Postby harp » Thu Dec 01, 2022 9:06 pm
Thank you
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#108 Postby txwxwatcher » Thu Dec 01, 2022 9:59 pm
Ntxw wrote:Iceresistance wrote:harp wrote:Would you mind posting it?
I will try
CFS is white Christmas for much of TX and brutally cold through New Years...yeah...way out there.
What does it show for the Houston area?
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#109 Postby Itryatgolf » Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:23 pm
It's interesting with such a west based -nao that it's not alot colder than it is indicating. I still believe until the Aleutian ridge that is flat shifts to a -epo, we still got a ways to go on cold weather. It looks like the -ao/nao isn't enough for us unfortunately, at least right now
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#110 Postby ThunderSleetDreams » Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:32 pm
Itryatgolf wrote:It's interesting with such a west based -nao that it's not alot colder than it is indicating. I still believe until the Aleutian ridge that is flat shifts to a -epo, we still got a ways to go on cold weather. It looks like the -ao/nao isn't enough for us unfortunately, at least right now
Stop watching models. I’ve never been more confident cold is coming. All the right people agree too… I’m talking unanimous amongst the right talking heads.
Now accompanying precip? Can’t be bullish on that at the moment.
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#111 Postby Brent » Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:36 pm
ThunderSleetDreams wrote:Itryatgolf wrote:It's interesting with such a west based -nao that it's not alot colder than it is indicating. I still believe until the Aleutian ridge that is flat shifts to a -epo, we still got a ways to go on cold weather. It looks like the -ao/nao isn't enough for us unfortunately, at least right now
Stop watching models. I’ve never been more confident cold is coming. All the right people agree too… I’m talking unanimous amongst the right talking heads.
Now accompanying precip? Can’t be bullish on that at the moment.
Its been pretty cold here already(24 degrees this morning) or the Friday a couple weeks ago we barely got above freezing. It just hasn't stuck around... But I think that's gonna be changing soon. So no I'm not really worried about the models. They've had some big fails the last few weeks anyway. Remember when Thanksgiving was gonna be warm and sunny?
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#112 Postby Cpv17 » Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:51 pm
Itryatgolf wrote:It's interesting with such a west based -nao that it's not alot colder than it is indicating. I still believe until the Aleutian ridge that is flat shifts to a -epo, we still got a ways to go on cold weather. It looks like the -ao/nao isn't enough for us unfortunately, at least right now
I’m right there with you on this but I’m hoping in a week or two the EPO will become more favorable for us.
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#113 Postby Ntxw » Thu Dec 01, 2022 11:09 pm
Keep note the long range-medium range correction in the GFS, in the pushing east camp.

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#114 Postby Itryatgolf » Thu Dec 01, 2022 11:10 pm
If the weeklies are to be believed, it should get pretty cold around mid-end of December with more ridging in pacific and up towards Alaska.
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#116 Postby harp » Fri Dec 02, 2022 12:22 am
GFS couldn’t be any more depressing. December 17/18 near 80 in my area. Ugh!!!!
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#117 Postby South Texas Storms » Fri Dec 02, 2022 3:22 am
harp wrote:GFS couldn’t be any more depressing. December 17/18 near 80 in my area. Ugh!!!!
0z Euro Ensemble shows below normal temps pretty much across the entire US during that same time frame. Trust the ensembles much more than the operational models, especially more than a week out.
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#118 Postby Iceresistance » Fri Dec 02, 2022 6:41 am
The GFS is correcting the cold air to be launched towards us! Also trending colder as well.

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#119 Postby Iceresistance » Fri Dec 02, 2022 6:43 am
South Texas Storms wrote:harp wrote:GFS couldn’t be any more depressing. December 17/18 near 80 in my area. Ugh!!!!
0z Euro Ensemble shows below normal temps pretty much across the entire US during that same time frame. Trust the ensembles much more than the operational models, especially more than a week out.
I pay more attention to the Ensembles when the Operational models can't be used very well as a forecast. Agreement with you for that.
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#120 Postby Iceresistance » Fri Dec 02, 2022 9:21 am
Ntxw wrote:Iceresistance wrote:harp wrote:Would you mind posting it?
I will try
CFS is white Christmas for much of TX and brutally cold through New Years...yeah...way out there.
I got the image! This is for popcorn (chicken) purposes, lol.
https://s1.gifyu.com/images/December-1st-12z-CFS.gif
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