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#101 Postby dhweather » Thu Jul 07, 2005 3:40 pm

MGC wrote:ULL to the north is helping Dennis turn more westerly.....MGC


Notice the ULL in the BOC also - perhaps slightly pulling Dennis?
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#102 Postby Ivanhater » Thu Jul 07, 2005 3:40 pm

i think the problem is most people are looking at noaa satellite, this one is updated morehttp://www.atmos.washington.edu/~ov ... st_full+12
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#103 Postby dwg71 » Thu Jul 07, 2005 3:41 pm

jkt21787 wrote:I would rather have Alhurricane or a pro met come back and give his/her opinion on the current movement and new implications for the the future track rather than listening to this back and forth between the two sides (NW movement, FL hit; WNW movement, non-FL hit),


Current movement is undisputable with recon fixes and NHC 3 hour fixes, future course is up for debate, current motion is not.

11:00AM NHC 18.0N 75.6W
04:00PM NHC 19.0N 76.6W

Thats northwest, period.
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#104 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Thu Jul 07, 2005 3:41 pm

Ivan pulled this kind of you know what. Its eye faded into a ERC then BOOM. I expect Dennis will try it to durning the next 6 to 12 hours. West-northwest or slightly to the north of that.
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#105 Postby goodlife » Thu Jul 07, 2005 3:41 pm

Well.....I don't know what a ridge looks like....anyone care to describe it so I can try and pick it out on a map?
thanks!
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#106 Postby Agua » Thu Jul 07, 2005 3:43 pm

I wish some one would post a link to whatever it is they're seeing that causes them to conclude it has turned back to a wnw motion, because everything I've looked at shows NW motion.
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#107 Postby Foladar » Thu Jul 07, 2005 3:44 pm

5pm forecast says it is STILL NW .
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#108 Postby jkt21787 » Thu Jul 07, 2005 3:44 pm

dwg71 wrote:
jkt21787 wrote:I would rather have Alhurricane or a pro met come back and give his/her opinion on the current movement and new implications for the the future track rather than listening to this back and forth between the two sides (NW movement, FL hit; WNW movement, non-FL hit),


Current movement is undisputable with recon fixes and NHC 3 hour fixes, future course is up for debate, current motion is not.

11:00AM NHC 18.0N 75.6W
Last recon 18.9N 76.6W

Thats northwest, period.

I'll put in my opinion now that I've really looked at the sat...Its going more NW than WNW, thats for sure.
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#109 Postby NorthGaWeather » Thu Jul 07, 2005 3:44 pm

dwg71 wrote:
jkt21787 wrote:I would rather have Alhurricane or a pro met come back and give his/her opinion on the current movement and new implications for the the future track rather than listening to this back and forth between the two sides (NW movement, FL hit; WNW movement, non-FL hit),


Current movement is undisputable with recon fixes and NHC 3 hour fixes, future course is up for debate, current motion is not.

11:00AM NHC 18.0N 75.6W
Last recon 18.9N 76.6W

Thats northwest, period.


Putting your gibberish aside. There was a WNW wobble in there and I'm sure you can see it.
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#110 Postby deltadog03 » Thu Jul 07, 2005 3:44 pm

goodlife wrote:Well.....I don't know what a ridge looks like....anyone care to describe it so I can try and pick it out on a map?
thanks!



yeah...look at the water vapor loop or even the sat...the clouds over florida and northern cuba are moving from the east to the west...that is idicative of a RIDGE...winds flow clockwise in the NH..that will push dennis more WNW
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#111 Postby dwg71 » Thu Jul 07, 2005 3:45 pm

Agua wrote:I wish some one would post a link to whatever it is they're seeing that causes them to conclude it has turned back to a wnw motion, because everything I've looked at shows NW motion.


Please refer to recon thread, it gives current coordinate, do trust what you see on your computer screen trying to analyze update by update.

The trend is your friend...
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#112 Postby Roxy » Thu Jul 07, 2005 3:45 pm

goodlife wrote:Well.....I don't know what a ridge looks like....anyone care to describe it so I can try and pick it out on a map?
thanks!


GL, I have no idea what a ridge looks like either, but supposedly you can see one at this link?

:)

http://www.atmos.washington.edu/~ovens/ ... nhanced+12

Hope you guys stay safe over there!
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#113 Postby margaritabeach » Thu Jul 07, 2005 3:46 pm

deltadog03 wrote:how do you say the ridge is retreating...cuz tampa says it is...come on...and good point..the ULL is helping to the west as well...it has been NW most of the day, but, now WNW


someone needs to tell recon their fixes are off then
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#114 Postby goodlife » Thu Jul 07, 2005 3:48 pm

deltadog03 wrote:
goodlife wrote:Well.....I don't know what a ridge looks like....anyone care to describe it so I can try and pick it out on a map?
thanks!



yeah...look at the water vapor loop or even the sat...the clouds over florida and northern cuba are moving from the east to the west...that is idicative of a RIDGE...winds flow clockwise in the NH..that will push dennis more WNW


Well...if THAT'S what the ridge is...then it looks to me like it's moving further into the gulf!
Somebody needs to back that thing up.....I'm in favor of this more easterly course tyvm...:)
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#115 Postby margaritabeach » Thu Jul 07, 2005 3:49 pm

I agree the setup is looking to move it wnw in the near future but not currently'

Hurricane center located near 19.0n 76.6w at 07/2100z
position accurate within 15 nm

present movement toward the northwest or 310 degrees at 13 kt
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#116 Postby dhweather » Thu Jul 07, 2005 3:49 pm

I think the point of this thread was that conditions may become more favorable for a WNW movement as Dennis approaches the ridge.
He's not close enough yet, but clearly the ridge is in place.

I do not think this threads purpose was to say it is moving WNW RIGHT NOW.
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#117 Postby dwg71 » Thu Jul 07, 2005 3:51 pm

dhweather wrote:I think the point of this thread was that conditions may become more favorable for a WNW movement as Dennis approaches the ridge.
He's not close enough yet, but clearly the ridge is in place.

I do not think this threads purpose was to say it is moving WNW RIGHT NOW.


It wasnt the OP's purpose but it evolved into that. But, alas ,NHC put it all to rest with their 4PM EST update. 310/13
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#118 Postby deltadog03 » Thu Jul 07, 2005 3:52 pm

dhweather wrote:I think the point of this thread was that conditions may become more favorable for a WNW movement as Dennis approaches the ridge.
He's not close enough yet, but clearly the ridge is in place.

I do not think this threads purpose was to say it is moving WNW RIGHT NOW.


thank you...i am saying coming upstream...the ridge will help that westward movement
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#119 Postby Eyes2theSkies » Thu Jul 07, 2005 3:53 pm

this is a comedy act...wish i could post the theme song to the Benny Hill show
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#120 Postby dhweather » Thu Jul 07, 2005 3:54 pm

dwg71 wrote:
dhweather wrote:I think the point of this thread was that conditions may become more favorable for a WNW movement as Dennis approaches the ridge.
He's not close enough yet, but clearly the ridge is in place.

I do not think this threads purpose was to say it is moving WNW RIGHT NOW.


It wasnt the OP's purpose but it evolved into that. But, alas ,NHC put it all to rest with their 4PM EST update. 310/13


Dennis is clearly moving NW - no argument about that.

I stillbelieve that one he gets closer to the ridge, later today/tonight,
he'll add more of a westward componet to his path.
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