2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1061 Postby tolakram » Wed Aug 02, 2017 11:55 am

Siker wrote:
Can we start a thread for this area / unlock the one that was opened a few days ago since it's actually emerged off Africa now?



We are sticking to the 'no model storm threads' for the time being. If it shows signs of development or the NHC tags it then the thread will be open for certain.
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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1062 Postby Alyono » Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:08 pm

tolakram wrote:
Siker wrote:
Can we start a thread for this area / unlock the one that was opened a few days ago since it's actually emerged off Africa now?



We are sticking to the 'no model storm threads' for the time being. If it shows signs of development or the NHC tags it then the thread will be open for certain.


I can say private industry has already tagged this system with development chances
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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1063 Postby cycloneye » Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:25 pm

We stay here for now.

Tropical Weather Outlook
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL
200 PM EDT Wed Aug 2 2017

For the North Atlantic...Caribbean Sea and the Gulf of Mexico:

Tropical cyclone formation is not expected during the next 5 days.

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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1064 Postby gatorcane » Wed Aug 02, 2017 1:00 pm

12Z ECMWF with a TS off Africa in just 48 hours...

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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1065 Postby AutoPenalti » Wed Aug 02, 2017 1:05 pm

We are being held hostage lol :lol:
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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1066 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Wed Aug 02, 2017 1:08 pm

GEFS has been hinting at changing conditions. It may be that the "on switch" is about to turn on. I am still skeptical till I see it with my own eyes. :lol:

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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1067 Postby RL3AO » Wed Aug 02, 2017 1:10 pm

tarheelprogrammer wrote:GEFS has been hinting at changing conditions. It may be that the "on switch" is about to turn on. I am still skeptical till I see it with my own eyes. :lol:


2nd and 3rd week of August. Many of us have been saying it since July 20th. :lol:
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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1068 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Wed Aug 02, 2017 1:12 pm

RL3AO wrote:
tarheelprogrammer wrote:GEFS has been hinting at changing conditions. It may be that the "on switch" is about to turn on. I am still skeptical till I see it with my own eyes. :lol:


2nd and 3rd week of August. Many of us have been saying it since July 20th. :lol:



The switch still needs to be flipped on though. We shall see if it does. Just as the models were showing nothing to now something, they can easily go back to nothing :lol:
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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1069 Postby cycloneye » Wed Aug 02, 2017 1:14 pm

1007 mbs at 72 hours.

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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1070 Postby Ivanhater » Wed Aug 02, 2017 1:18 pm

12z euro jumping on board through 96 hours
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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1071 Postby gatorcane » Wed Aug 02, 2017 1:18 pm

strengthening at 96 hours. CMC also develops this but a little later.

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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1072 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Wed Aug 02, 2017 1:19 pm

Ivanhater wrote:12z euro jumping on board through 96 hours



Also, has energy approaching the G.O.M. from the Caribbean.
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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1073 Postby gatorcane » Wed Aug 02, 2017 1:23 pm

slowly gaining strength day 5 heading generally W or a little north of West.

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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1074 Postby Ivanhater » Wed Aug 02, 2017 1:24 pm

tarheelprogrammer wrote:
Ivanhater wrote:12z euro jumping on board through 96 hours



Also, has energy approaching the G.O.M. from the Caribbean.

Euro certainly coming alive in the Atlantic basin
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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1075 Postby RL3AO » Wed Aug 02, 2017 1:26 pm

tarheelprogrammer wrote:
The switch still needs to be flipped on though. We shall see if it does. Just as the models were showing nothing to now something, they can easily go back to nothing :lol:


Sure, but I'd argue that the unfavorable Caribbean modeled for next week doesn't really make sense considering the large scale pattern. I'm not surprised to see the models trending towards less shear there next week. I'd be much more surprised to see them trend back towards unfavorable.
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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1076 Postby BobHarlem » Wed Aug 02, 2017 1:33 pm

Euro shows something popping up by the Yucatan also.
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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1077 Postby Alyono » Wed Aug 02, 2017 1:34 pm

RL3AO wrote:
tarheelprogrammer wrote:
The switch still needs to be flipped on though. We shall see if it does. Just as the models were showing nothing to now something, they can easily go back to nothing :lol:


Sure, but I'd argue that the unfavorable Caribbean modeled for next week doesn't really make sense considering the large scale pattern. I'm not surprised to see the models trending towards less shear there next week. I'd be much more surprised to see them trend back towards unfavorable.


The unfavorable Caribbean may make sense, if we get development in the SW Gulf. Get a large ridge over that system, the Caribbean is then under a large trough
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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1078 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Wed Aug 02, 2017 1:37 pm

12z ECMWF @ 168 hrs showing a 1003mb TS in the BoC, and a 1007mb Tropical Storm near the islands.
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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1079 Postby RL3AO » Wed Aug 02, 2017 1:38 pm

Hypercane_Kyle wrote:12z ECMWF @ 168 hrs showing a 1003mb TS in the BoC, and a 1007mb Tropical Storm near the islands.


Sounds like two more name wasters to me. :wink:
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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1080 Postby Hurricaneman » Wed Aug 02, 2017 1:38 pm

I see the Caribbean being quite favorable if the BOC system stays farther south and doesn't develop
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