ATL: ZETA - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: ZETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1141 Postby HurricaneEnzo » Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:21 pm

Looks like Zeta is getting pretty close to pulling some really moisture laden air into its circulation. I think another couple of hours and this starts to take off.


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Re: ATL: ZETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1142 Postby GCANE » Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:32 pm

On approach, latest GFS.
Looks like its going to stay away from the worst part of the Rossby Wave.
If that ARWB over FL moves more west, then intensity could be higher than currently expected.

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Re: ATL: ZETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1143 Postby NevadaFan18 » Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:45 pm

I’ve haven’t looked at this thread in a while, but I’ve noticed a marked increase in hype surrounding the intensity of Zeta. Can anyone explain to me why? Are the HWRF and HMON goin’ nuts with it? Looking at the IR and satellite it looks like a skeleton, but I guess that huge outer band could help fend off any dry air that tries to disrupt the core.

Other than that, what is leading people to think that this has a shot at MH status? (This isn’t meant to be sarcastic, I’m genuinely asking)
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Re: ATL: ZETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1144 Postby GCANE » Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:45 pm

Looks like a small tower starting to popup on the CoC.
That warm-core feature is still there.
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Re: ATL: ZETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1145 Postby xironman » Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:50 pm

The llc looks quite far north of the mlc... again.
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Re: ATL: ZETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1146 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:50 pm

WE are well enough right of track.. looks to have been moving NNW the last 3 to 4 hours. expect east shifts..

The line is the last 3 to 4 hour motion

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Re: ATL: ZETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1147 Postby aspen » Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:53 pm

LLC is exposed again. Are we sure this didn’t just take a gulp of dry air?
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Re: ATL: ZETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1148 Postby Stormcenter » Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:53 pm

Satellite presentation is improving.
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Re: ATL: ZETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1149 Postby tiger_deF » Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:54 pm

aspen wrote:LLC is exposed again. Are we sure this didn’t just take a gulp of dry air?

Stormcenter wrote:Satellite presentation is improving.


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Re: ATL: ZETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1150 Postby Stormcenter » Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:56 pm

Expect east shifts?
I’m not sure about that, the models look
pretty locked it as they did recently with Delta.



Aric Dunn wrote:WE are well enough right of track.. looks to have been moving NNW the last 3 to 4 hours. expect east shifts..

The line is the last 3 to 4 hour motion

https://i.ibb.co/WByxVMX/Capture.png
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Re: ATL: ZETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1151 Postby Stormcenter » Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:56 pm

So true. Lol

tiger_deF wrote:
aspen wrote:LLC is exposed again. Are we sure this didn’t just take a gulp of dry air?

Stormcenter wrote:Satellite presentation is improving.


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Re: ATL: ZETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1152 Postby EquusStorm » Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:58 pm

What a difference 12 hours (and the Yucatan) makes

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Re: ATL: ZETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1153 Postby ClarCari » Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:00 pm

tiger_deF wrote:
aspen wrote:LLC is exposed again. Are we sure this didn’t just take a gulp of dry air?

Stormcenter wrote:Satellite presentation is improving.


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Hehe they are both right. While exposed, the LLC is very clearly aligned, well centered, and has significant banding surrounding it that it didn’t have before landfall.

All it needs it consistent convection to pop into it which honestly will happen sooner rather than later.
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Re: ATL: ZETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1154 Postby Nimbus » Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:01 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:WE are well enough right of track.. looks to have been moving NNW the last 3 to 4 hours. expect east shifts..

The line is the last 3 to 4 hour motion

https://i.ibb.co/WByxVMX/Capture.png


Official track is still east of the 12Z GFS and HWRF landfall.
Models would have the strong side of a ~970 mb hurricane eyewall over NOLA, while the official track has the weak side of the storm over NOLA which could be ~30 knots less.

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Re: ATL: ZETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1155 Postby tolakram » Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:07 pm

ClarCari wrote:
tiger_deF wrote:
aspen wrote:LLC is exposed again. Are we sure this didn’t just take a gulp of dry air?

Stormcenter wrote:Satellite presentation is improving.


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Hehe they are both right. While exposed, the LLC is very clearly aligned, well centered, and has significant banding surrounding it that it didn’t have before landfall.

All it needs it consistent convection to pop into it which honestly will happen sooner rather than later.


Storms take 18 to 24 hours to properly recover from landfall, with few exceptions. I'm not sure we can tell what will happen for a short while, but the best intensity model (HWRF) shows a steady state for 12 to 18 hours before steady strengthening until landfall.
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Re: ATL: ZETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1156 Postby TallyTracker » Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:08 pm



So thankful for the Yucatan pulling the punch out of Zeta! Could you imagine the hurricanes that would develop without the Yucatan being there?!?
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Re: ATL: ZETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1157 Postby Dean4Storms » Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:17 pm

Definitely tilted from North to South with the LLC to the MLC. Also appears the LLC to be tracking more NNW, maybe why it is tilted.
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Re: ATL: ZETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1158 Postby aspen » Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:17 pm

I’m now forecast to get up to 3 inches of snow on Friday from the jumbled mess that will be the combined remnants of Hurricane Zeta and Snowstorm Bill.
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Re: ATL: ZETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1159 Postby xironman » Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:22 pm

Obviously being over land disrupted it quite a bit. But the mlc is clearly south of the llc, and until that rectifies it will struggle a bit.

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Re: ATL: ZETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1160 Postby Frank P » Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:24 pm

Inflow Banding features starting to look better on the vis sat loops, with some increased convection slowly starting to build in the northern quad above the core, maybe a much needed kick start coming?
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