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#1181 Postby cycloneye » Fri Jul 23, 2010 7:21 pm

Extremeweatherguy wrote:This is the 18z Para GFS and WAY out there, but did anyone else happen to glimpse the hurricane it is depicting in the very long range?

HR 252: http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwpara ... v_252l.gif

HR 276: http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwpara ... v_276l.gif

HR 300: http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwpara ... v_300l.gif

HR 324: http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwpara ... v_324l.gif

HR 348: http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwpara ... v_348l.gif

HR 372: http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwpara ... v_372l.gif

HR 384: http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwpara ... v_384l.gif

Hopefully this is not a sign of things to come next month..


Holy smokes,tracks over me :eek: .But is long range so you know the drill. :) If the EURO,UKMET,NOGAPS and CMC join later,then it will be something to take seriously.
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#1182 Postby HURAKAN » Fri Jul 23, 2010 7:23 pm

that's lalaland territory, where fairies and the smurfs also live!!!
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Re: Long / Medium Range Model Runs

#1183 Postby CYCLONE MIKE » Fri Jul 23, 2010 7:32 pm

Are any models showing the possible development mid-next week moving into the central gulf that JB and a few other on here mentioned two days ago?
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Re: Long / Medium Range Model Runs

#1184 Postby WeatherEmperor » Fri Jul 23, 2010 7:33 pm

Luis,

When is the GFS Para officially supposed to replace the current GFS?

<RICKY>
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#1185 Postby Scorpion » Fri Jul 23, 2010 7:44 pm

Finally we get our first fantasy cane. Its a start at least :D
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Re: Long / Medium Range Model Runs

#1186 Postby cycloneye » Fri Jul 23, 2010 7:48 pm

WeatherEmperor wrote:Luis,

When is the GFS Para officially supposed to replace the current GFS?

<RICKY>


On July 27.
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#1187 Postby BigA » Sat Jul 24, 2010 12:10 am

00z GFS picks up what looks like the same "system" the 18z Para GFS has in the long range. It has the low moving off Africa at 180 hours and developing from there. Still a long way off. If the models in 3 days show it coming off in 114 hours and developing, I'll be interested.
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Re: Long / Medium Range Model Runs

#1188 Postby blp » Sat Jul 24, 2010 2:17 am

00Z EURO has a weak reflection at 240hrs.

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Also, the GFS operational is showing it as well but in a much weaker state and further west than the 00Z GFS PARA.

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It will be interesting to see if we get more consistency from both models tomorrow.
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Re: Long / Medium Range Model Runs

#1189 Postby cycloneye » Sat Jul 24, 2010 11:49 am

GFS operational continues to show development in the MDR area starting by the end of the first week of August.But I prefer to wait for the rest of the models to get more interested, however is entretaiment to look at these long range loops.

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... loop.shtml
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Re: Long / Medium Range Model Runs

#1190 Postby StormClouds63 » Sat Jul 24, 2010 12:34 pm

2-3 weeks until Colin, IMO. Numbers will continue to lag far behind 2005.
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Re: Long / Medium Range Model Runs

#1191 Postby cycloneye » Sat Jul 24, 2010 2:22 pm

New GFS delayed by one day=July 28

It was supposed to be out by the 27th, but read below why they will delay it by one day.

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Re: Long / Medium Range Model Runs

#1192 Postby jcoffee » Sat Jul 24, 2010 2:26 pm

StormClouds63 wrote:2-3 weeks until Colin, IMO. Numbers will continue to lag far behind 2005.


It might not happen this year, but we will probably have years like 2005 at least once a decade or more because of global warming. There will also be many more monsters like Katrina and Rita. Monster-sized storms are on the rise because of global warming, scientists say.
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#1193 Postby rockyman » Sat Jul 24, 2010 3:20 pm

12z HWRF (from Bonnie)--look east of the Islands:
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Also, 12z GFDL:
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12z GFS Operational:
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12z CMC:
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Re: Long / Medium Range Model Runs

#1194 Postby Macrocane » Sat Jul 24, 2010 3:27 pm

Looking at those models it seems like the EPAC is finally going to have another tropical system, it's unbelievable how this July has been so inactive after the most active June on record in that basin.
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#1195 Postby KWT » Sat Jul 24, 2010 3:28 pm

ECM actually also shows a weak reflection of a system in the same region around 120hrs:

http://www.ecmwf.int/products/forecasts ... !chart.gif
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Re: Long / Medium Range Model Runs

#1196 Postby Ivanhater » Sat Jul 24, 2010 3:47 pm

There is just to much the models are sniffing out, we should have Colin soon imo....
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Re: Long / Medium Range Model Runs

#1197 Postby thetruesms » Sat Jul 24, 2010 3:54 pm

cycloneye wrote:New GFS delayed by one day=July 28

It was supposed to be out by the 27th, but read below why they will delay it by one day.
This is starting to sound like the AHPS precipitation analysis changes. A month after the original implementation date, it finally happened :lol: and then it had issues in implementation, requiring another month to get everything finished :(
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Re: Long / Medium Range Model Runs

#1198 Postby southerngale » Sat Jul 24, 2010 3:55 pm

StormClouds63 wrote:2-3 weeks until Colin, IMO. Numbers will continue to lag far behind 2005.


As they should. Nobody expects 2005 like numbers. 2005 was an anomaly - I am surprised by the continued comparisons.
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#1199 Postby jcoffee » Sat Jul 24, 2010 4:00 pm

2005 numbers may seem like no big deal in the future ahead for our sad polluted world. Global warming will heat up the oceans and you will probably have storms regularly even in April and December for the Atlantic.
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Re: Long / Medium Range Model Runs

#1200 Postby Macrocane » Sat Jul 24, 2010 4:10 pm

:uarrow: I know you're new so I don't want to sound mean but that's like the 9th time you say that, back on 2005 some people said that Global warming was going to be resposible for an increase in Tropical Cyclone activity but those ideas have been thrown away and now most of the scientist agree that the situation is more complex and actually tropical cyclone activity has somewhat reduced around the world especially on the last 2 years.
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