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#1181 Postby Evil Jeremy » Mon Jul 08, 2013 5:57 pm

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Re: ATL: CHANTAL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1182 Postby artist » Mon Jul 08, 2013 5:57 pm

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#1183 Postby Evil Jeremy » Mon Jul 08, 2013 5:58 pm

floridasun78 wrote:
CrazyC83 wrote:Those winds support a 50 kt intensity. Could the forward motion be amplifying the surface winds?

i heard unflagged are error report from plane


You are confusing "unflagged" with "flagged".
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Re: ATL: CHANTAL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1184 Postby Alyono » Mon Jul 08, 2013 5:58 pm

floridasun78 wrote:
Evil Jeremy wrote:Recon just reported several unflagged readings of 55-58kts FL winds...

put their unflagged



I really need to say something.

Pay NO attention to the auto flagger. Are those surface winds anything close to the flight level winds that are just above the surface? Of course not. It is NOT meteorologically possible for the winds to INCREASE that much heading to the surface from that height. There is something called the log layer where winds decrease closer to the surface
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#1185 Postby SouthDadeFish » Mon Jul 08, 2013 5:59 pm

How are flight level winds not valid?? They flag the SFMR readings due to heavy rain rates, but the flight level readings are legit I believe.
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Re: ATL: CHANTAL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1186 Postby Evil Jeremy » Mon Jul 08, 2013 5:59 pm

Alyono wrote:
torrea40 wrote:
wxman57 wrote:Very weak and disorganized, as I expected recon would find. Poorly-defined center and inflow doesn't appear to be very good. It's struggling with the fast movement. Not vertically aligned.


You are crazy, he found winds over 52 mph


That wind is not valid!


Maybe not, put plenty other valid, stronger winds were just found.
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#1187 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Jul 08, 2013 5:59 pm

we all knew the right front would have some fairly high winds do to its forward motion im not surprised about that.
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Re: ATL: CHANTAL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1188 Postby SouthDadeFish » Mon Jul 08, 2013 5:59 pm

Alyono wrote:
floridasun78 wrote:
Evil Jeremy wrote:Recon just reported several unflagged readings of 55-58kts FL winds...

put their unflagged



I really need to say something.

Pay NO attention to the auto flagger. Are those surface winds anything close to the flight level winds that are just above the surface? Of course not. It is NOT meteorologically possible for the winds to INCREASE that much heading to the surface from that height. There is something called the log layer where winds decrease closer to the surface


The 58 knot reading was flight level winds....
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Re: ATL: CHANTAL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1189 Postby Evil Jeremy » Mon Jul 08, 2013 6:00 pm

Alyono wrote:
floridasun78 wrote:
Evil Jeremy wrote:Recon just reported several unflagged readings of 55-58kts FL winds...

put their unflagged



I really need to say something.

Pay NO attention to the auto flagger. Are those surface winds anything close to the flight level winds that are just above the surface? Of course not. It is NOT meteorologically possible for the winds to INCREASE that much heading to the surface from that height. There is something called the log layer where winds decrease closer to the surface


Those were flight level winds. Please calm down.
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#1190 Postby floridasun78 » Mon Jul 08, 2013 6:00 pm

it look wind 47 kt like 54mph wind so wind in storm maybe 50mph at 11pm
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Re: ATL: CHANTAL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1191 Postby Alyono » Mon Jul 08, 2013 6:00 pm

SouthDadeFish wrote:
The 58 knot reading was flight level winds....


that would be because my E-MAIL didnt update with the latest winds. I was using data from 30 minutes ago
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#1192 Postby Dave » Mon Jul 08, 2013 6:01 pm

If anyone else is getting a better feed today be my guest and take over.
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Re: ATL: CHANTAL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1193 Postby Miami Storm Tracker » Mon Jul 08, 2013 6:01 pm

torrea40 wrote:
wxman57 wrote:Very weak and disorganized, as I expected recon would find. Poorly-defined center and inflow doesn't appear to be very good. It's struggling with the fast movement. Not vertically aligned.


You are crazy, he found winds over 52 mph


I have been seeing you post most of the day, most of them with nothing to offer. I know Wxman57 does not need anyone to speak for him, but he is one of the most informed people on this board. If you can't say anything positive or keep it nice, do us all a favor and don't post.
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#1194 Postby Alyono » Mon Jul 08, 2013 6:02 pm

ob 26 from my e-mail (which I just got)

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URNT15 KNHC 082236
AF302 0103A CHANTAL HDOB 26 20130708
222800 1139N 05436W 9664 00396 0111 +225 +206 135003 004 /// /// 03
222830 1140N 05435W 9663 00395 0110 +228 +197 179002 003 012 002 00
222900 1141N 05434W 9667 00391 0109 +225 +206 212002 003 013 000 00
222930 1143N 05433W 9665 00393 0109 +224 +210 262002 004 013 001 00
223000 1144N 05432W 9664 00393 0108 +220 +213 234005 005 014 001 00
223030 1145N 05431W 9664 00392 0107 +220 +214 225007 008 017 001 00
223100 1146N 05429W 9666 00390 0106 +220 +215 218009 009 015 000 00
223130 1147N 05428W 9667 00388 0105 +220 +212 194010 010 016 000 00
223200 1148N 05427W 9667 00387 0105 +220 +213 201010 011 014 002 00
223230 1149N 05426W 9666 00387 0103 +221 +212 200013 014 015 001 00
223300 1150N 05424W 9666 00387 0103 +225 +212 197016 017 014 001 00
223330 1151N 05423W 9665 00388 0103 +225 +211 191018 020 013 002 00
223400 1153N 05422W 9666 00388 0103 +225 +212 186020 021 018 002 00
223430 1154N 05421W 9666 00386 0102 +225 +213 184022 023 022 003 00
223500 1155N 05419W 9667 00385 0102 +222 +214 176024 025 027 004 00
223530 1156N 05418W 9664 00386 0101 +222 +207 173027 029 031 005 00
223600 1157N 05417W 9666 00385 0104 +210 +210 175032 033 032 006 00
223630 1158N 05416W 9666 00387 0106 +213 //// 170030 033 031 008 01
223700 1200N 05414W 9668 00386 0105 +216 +210 169036 039 035 006 03
223730 1201N 05413W 9668 00385 0109 +209 +209 165037 039 045 015 03
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#1195 Postby Dean4Storms » Mon Jul 08, 2013 6:02 pm

Looks like a 50mph Storm unless Recon finds something stronger.
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#1196 Postby Dave » Mon Jul 08, 2013 6:03 pm

Thank you Alyono for #26
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#1197 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Jul 08, 2013 6:03 pm

Dean4Storms wrote:Looks like a 50mph Storm unless Recon finds something stronger.


they might in the east quad if they go there..
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Re: ATL: CHANTAL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1198 Postby artist » Mon Jul 08, 2013 6:04 pm

Alyono wrote:
torrea40 wrote:
wxman57 wrote:Very weak and disorganized, as I expected recon would find. Poorly-defined center and inflow doesn't appear to be very good. It's struggling with the fast movement. Not vertically aligned.


You are crazy, he found winds over 52 mph


That wind is not valid!

224000 1207N 05408W 9672 00383 0112 +199 +199 156055 056 059 032 00
224030 1208N 05407W 9646 00414 0118 +196 +196 159054 055 060 028 00
224100 1208N 05405W 9675 00388 0120 +201 +201 160050 054 052 033 00
not flagged and seem pretty close in reading
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Re: ATL: CHANTAL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1199 Postby Alyono » Mon Jul 08, 2013 6:05 pm

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Alyono wrote:224000 1207N 05408W 9672 00383 0112 +199 +199 156055 056 059 032 00
224030 1208N 05407W 9646 00414 0118 +196 +196 159054 055 060 028 00
224100 1208N 05405W 9675 00388 0120 +201 +201 160050 054 052 033 00
not flagged and seem pretty close in reading


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#1200 Postby TropicalAnalystwx13 » Mon Jul 08, 2013 6:05 pm

60 knot flight winds with surface winds of 45-50 knots. Microwave pass shows that this is /not/ a disorganized tropical cyclone.

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