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#121 Postby RL3AO » Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:40 pm

90 kts in 36 hours... Guess its gonna pull a Gil and just randomly fall part.

More likely to be 140 than 90 at that time IMO.
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Re: WPAC: UTOR - Severe Tropical Storm

#122 Postby vrif » Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:47 pm

00Z GFS run is again showing northward motion after entering the SCS and making land fall slightly east of HK. CMC still has STS Utor going straight west and making landfall in western Guangdong.

edit: Included GFS past 4 cycle track.
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#123 Postby senorpepr » Sat Aug 10, 2013 12:26 am

Finally JMA is with the program. Rarely you see JMA (using 10-min avg) report the initial intensity of a well-developed tropical cyclone higher than JTWC (using 1-min avg)... but that's the case now... and may still be a little low. Although I still have no clue why JMA is bringing the cyclone north of Aparri.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pit6EYMSQmM[/youtube]
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#124 Postby vrif » Sat Aug 10, 2013 12:27 am

The pinhole is gone now.

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#125 Postby vrif » Sat Aug 10, 2013 12:35 am

senorpepr wrote:Finally JMA is with the program. Rarely you see JMA (using 10-min avg) report the initial intensity of a well-developed tropical cyclone higher than JTWC (using 1-min avg)... but that's the case now... and may still be a little low. Although I still have no clue why JMA is bringing the cyclone north of Aparri.


The latest 0Z JMA run has Utor's track slightly more south and crossing Luzon. There is a chance JMA may move the track south in the next update, if they do indeed follow their own guidance model.
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Re: WPAC: UTOR - Severe Tropical Storm

#126 Postby euro6208 » Sat Aug 10, 2013 12:42 am

UTOR likely peaked at 115 knots category 4 earlier with the formation of an pinhole eye (I'm going on the low side)...he has weakened now to 100 knots...




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Re: WPAC: UTOR - Severe Tropical Storm

#127 Postby Alyono » Sat Aug 10, 2013 12:50 am

euro6208 wrote:UTOR likely peaked at 115 knots category 4 earlier with the formation of an pinhole eye (I'm going on the low side)...he has weakened now to 100 knots...




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Lets stop with the hyperbole.

This in no way was 115 KT earlier. In no way is it weakening now. We still have a rapid intensfiying typhoon
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#128 Postby Meow » Sat Aug 10, 2013 12:51 am

senorpepr wrote:Finally JMA is with the program. Rarely you see JMA (using 10-min avg) report the initial intensity of a well-developed tropical cyclone higher than JTWC (using 1-min avg)... but that's the case now... and may still be a little low. Although I still have no clue why JMA is bringing the cyclone north of Aparri.

Since 2011, JMA often reports higher intensity for TS and STS. This is logically, as JMA’s Dvorak technique provides.

When Utor becomes a TY, JMA should begin reporting lower intensity, for the same reason.
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Re: WPAC: UTOR - Severe Tropical Storm (Labuyo PAGASA)

#129 Postby mrbagyo » Sat Aug 10, 2013 1:37 am

Alyono wrote:
euro6208 wrote:UTOR likely peaked at 115 knots category 4 earlier with the formation of an pinhole eye (I'm going on the low side)...he has weakened now to 100 knots...




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Lets stop with the hyperbole.

This in no way was 115 KT earlier. In no way is it weakening now. We still have a rapid intensfiying typhoon


I agree with Alyono...
but that 115 knots is not far fetch if UTOR keeps on intensifying.

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let's check the rainfall potential of Utor...
quite heavy but not as much as KAI-TAK of 2012
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#130 Postby vrif » Sat Aug 10, 2013 1:52 am

Upgraded to TY

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WTPQ20 RJTD 100600
RSMC TROPICAL CYCLONE ADVISORY
NAME TY 1311 UTOR (1311) UPGRADED FROM STS
ANALYSIS
PSTN 100600UTC 13.9N 129.2E GOOD
MOVE W 12KT
PRES 965HPA
MXWD 070KT
GUST 100KT
50KT 50NM
30KT 120NM
FORECAST
24HF 110600UTC 15.6N 125.6E 70NM 70%
MOVE WNW 10KT
PRES 945HPA
MXWD 080KT
GUST 115KT
48HF 120600UTC 18.0N 122.5E 110NM 70%
MOVE NW 10KT
PRES 940HPA
MXWD 085KT
GUST 120KT
72HF 130600UTC 20.2N 118.3E 210NM 70%
MOVE WNW 11KT
PRES 930HPA
MXWD 090KT
GUST 130KT =
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#131 Postby dexterlabio » Sat Aug 10, 2013 2:10 am

Officially this season's 2nd typhoon. :lol: I wonder what JTWC will do next, their latest satfix still has DT 2.5
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Re: WPAC: UTOR - Typhoon (Labuyo PAGASA)

#132 Postby vrif » Sat Aug 10, 2013 2:12 am

This image says it all. :eek:
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#133 Postby Alyono » Sat Aug 10, 2013 2:42 am

dexterlabio wrote:Officially this season's 2nd typhoon. :lol: I wonder what JTWC will do next, their latest satfix still has DT 2.5


They're actually at 3.5

http://www.usno.navy.mil/NOOC/nmfc-ph/R ... 113fix.txt

However, a 3.5 defies logic and JT really needs to start using the fixes from SSD as well. I dont even know why SSD bothers with WPAC fixes since JT never uses them

This is a clear 4.5 or a 5.0
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Re: WPAC: UTOR - Typhoon (Labuyo PAGASA)

#134 Postby mrbagyo » Sat Aug 10, 2013 2:49 am

UTOR is still moving westward and the eye is about to reappear again...
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I think it's Rapidly intensifying now...
50 knot wind barbs now occupying half of the storm's inner core
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Re: WPAC: UTOR - Typhoon (Labuyo PAGASA)

#135 Postby RobWESTPACWX » Sat Aug 10, 2013 3:05 am

In response to this being a Typhoon now I made up a new video update. Plus my thoughts on the track. My thoughts that is nothing official.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCERMuKFiQs[/youtube]

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Re: WPAC: UTOR - Typhoon (Labuyo PAGASA)

#136 Postby RobWESTPACWX » Sat Aug 10, 2013 3:06 am

In response to this being a Typhoon now I made up a new video update. Plus my thoughts on the track. My thoughts that is nothing official.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCERMuKFiQs[/youtube]

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#137 Postby Meow » Sat Aug 10, 2013 3:10 am

Alyono wrote:However, a 3.5 defies logic and JT really needs to start using the fixes from SSD as well. I dont even know why SSD bothers with WPAC fixes since JT never uses them

Sometimes, JTWC uses 3 fixes, PGTW, KNES and RJTD. PGTW is JTWC itself, and KNES is SSD.

What is RJTD? Japan Meteorological Agency. :ggreen:
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#138 Postby xtyphooncyclonex » Sat Aug 10, 2013 3:23 am

Utor rapidly gaining in size! This probably could reach low-end Category 4 before landfall. 90 knots is to conservative!
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Re: WPAC: UTOR - Typhoon (Labuyo PAGASA)

#139 Postby dexterlabio » Sat Aug 10, 2013 3:33 am

Alyono wrote:
They're actually at 3.5

http://www.usno.navy.mil/NOOC/nmfc-ph/R ... 113fix.txt

However, a 3.5 defies logic and JT really needs to start using the fixes from SSD as well. I dont even know why SSD bothers with WPAC fixes since JT never uses them

This is a clear 4.5 or a 5.0


My bad, was going to type 3.5. :lol: Still no update from the JTWC. It'd be a huge difference if JTWC keeps it at around 60-65kts given that DT number, while JMA is at 70kts, plus the fact that JMA uses 10-min average. :lol:
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#140 Postby dexterlabio » Sat Aug 10, 2013 3:39 am

eye is peeking again.
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