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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#121 Postby Blown Away » Wed Aug 16, 2017 6:56 am

SFLcane wrote:Still no HWRF being run for 92L..


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06z HWRF keeps 92L a weak TW/TD, but appears to begin to strengthen starting @126 hrs...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#122 Postby jlauderdal » Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:00 am

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SFLcane wrote:Still no HWRF being run for 92L..


http://i.imgur.com/h7ZAHvJ.jpg
06z HWRF keeps 92L a weak TW/TD, but appears to begin to strengthen starting @126 hrs...
no worries, hwrf will go to major at some point
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#123 Postby jlauderdal » Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:02 am

Blown Away wrote:06z...
http://i.imgur.com/PjvJ1tr.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Y1OAjmB.jpg
Slight uptick in intensity compared to previous runs...


minimal land interaction...inflow could be effected as it heads west but after that watch out keys and texas
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#124 Postby Blown Away » Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:03 am

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CMC has TS/Cat 1 in Keys then gets stronger in GOM...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#125 Postby gatorcane » Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:23 am

Alyono wrote:NEW TROPICAL CYCLONE FORECAST TO DEVELOP AFTER 102 HOURS
FORECAST POSITION AT T+102 : 20.0N 61.1W

LEAD CENTRAL MAXIMUM WIND
VERIFYING TIME TIME POSITION PRESSURE (MB) SPEED (KNOTS)
-------------- ---- -------- ------------- -------------
1200UTC 20.08.2017 108 20.3N 62.3W 1009 33
0000UTC 21.08.2017 120 21.4N 65.2W 1007 38
1200UTC 21.08.2017 132 22.5N 67.9W 1004 41
0000UTC 22.08.2017 144 23.2N 70.2W 1000 44

UKMET saying trouble on the horizon


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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#126 Postby SFLcane » Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:33 am

Yea UKMET seems interesting but it hasn't done to well this season thus far. On that last frame it looks to probable recurve. Atleast lets hope. :(

UKMET, CMC, and HWRF all hint at possibly a more favorable environment near bahamas. But that could change with that shear zone close
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#127 Postby gatorcane » Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:44 am

That would not be a recurve on the UKMET. See 144 hours below 500mb pattern:

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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#128 Postby jlauderdal » Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:49 am

gatorcane wrote:That would not be a recurve on the UKMET. See 144 hours below 500mb pattern:

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recurve isnt in the cards so we can take that off the table...too much ridging..issue with this system is survival
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#129 Postby SoupBone » Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:08 am

jlauderdal wrote:
gatorcane wrote:That would not be a recurve on the UKMET. See 144 hours below 500mb pattern:



recurve isnt in the cards so we can take that off the table...too much ridging..issue with this system is survival


Come on man, you should know better than to speak in absolutes. How good have any of the models been so far this season?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#130 Postby WeatherEmperor » Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:08 am

06z NAVGEM has 92L approaching the northern islands in 6 days as a TD/TS:

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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#131 Postby Bocadude85 » Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:15 am

SFLcane wrote:Yea UKMET seems interesting but it hasn't done to well this season thus far. On that last frame it looks to probable recurve. Atleast lets hope. :(

UKMET, CMC, and HWRF all hint at possibly a more favorable environment near bahamas. But that could change with that shear zone close


The UKMET has been one of the better models this year in my opinion, much better then the GFS and just below the Euro.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#132 Postby SFLcane » Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:15 am

Yea here is the another look at the NAVGEM ;0) but i think this is not 92L this is future 93L. Looks to have dropped development with 92L.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#133 Postby Bocadude85 » Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:18 am

SFLcane wrote:Yea here is the another look at the NAVGEM ;0) but i think this is not 92L this is future 93L. Looks to have dropped development with 92L.



The 6z NAVGEM runs 92L over the Greater Antilles that's why it doesn't show development.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#134 Postby WeatherEmperor » Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:50 am

SFLcane wrote:Yea here is the another look at the NAVGEM ;0) but i think this is not 92L this is future 93L. Looks to have dropped development with 92L.

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My apologies I was wrong about 92L. Sorry about that.



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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#135 Postby Blown Away » Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:50 am

12z...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#136 Postby jlauderdal » Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:52 am

Bocadude85 wrote:
SFLcane wrote:Yea here is the another look at the NAVGEM ;0) but i think this is not 92L this is future 93L. Looks to have dropped development with 92L.



The 6z NAVGEM runs 92L over the Greater Antilles that's why it doesn't show development.


interesting the model shreds it
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#137 Postby wxman57 » Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:53 am

WeatherEmperor wrote:06z NAVGEM has 92L approaching the northern islands in 6 days as a TD/TS:

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As a general rule of thumb, you need to add 180 degrees to the NAVGEM predicted direction of movement. If I make a forecast and the NAVGEM ever agrees, then I know my forecast is horribly wrong.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#138 Postby SFLcane » Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:58 am

Sooo 57 based on guidance this one could be a problem " if " it finds favorable conditions after facing that shear zone. Whats your 2 cents?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#139 Postby wxman57 » Wed Aug 16, 2017 9:03 am

SFLcane wrote:Sooo 57 based on guidance this one could be a problem " if " it finds favorable conditions after facing that shear zone. Whats your 2 cents?


For now, I'm watching 91L more closely, as it could be a NW Caribbean Threat by Monday/Tuesday. I think 92L will track north of the islands. Too soon to tell if it will recurve east of the U.S. Much will depend upon if and when it develops (and how strong it gets). It's that time of year when every wave needs to be closely monitored.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#140 Postby gatorcane » Wed Aug 16, 2017 9:22 am

SFWMD plot:

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