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#121 Postby Opal storm » Fri Dec 29, 2006 11:24 pm

May he not RIP
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#122 Postby Miss Mary » Fri Dec 29, 2006 11:40 pm

Opal storm wrote:May he not RIP


I second that!
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#123 Postby Brent » Fri Dec 29, 2006 11:45 pm

Opal storm wrote:May he not RIP



:clap:
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#124 Postby Yankeegirl » Fri Dec 29, 2006 11:56 pm

I wonder when the video is going to hit the net? I wanna see it....
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#125 Postby Aquawind » Sat Dec 30, 2006 12:00 am

Dang.. I was hoping they were going to torture him and then parade his carcass around for a few days and hit him with their shoes.. He got off easy..
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#126 Postby Jim Cantore » Sat Dec 30, 2006 12:10 am

Rest.In.Pieces
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#127 Postby Brent » Sat Dec 30, 2006 12:35 am

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#128 Postby sweetpea » Sat Dec 30, 2006 12:40 am

We are celebrating a friends birthday tonite so we just got the news when I signed on to the computer, we all just raised a toast to his death. It is a good day!!! Happy new year!!!!!!
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#129 Postby Opal storm » Sat Dec 30, 2006 12:53 am

Brent wrote:How approriate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNWlGbKV0lo

:P
OMG!!! :roflmao:
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#130 Postby GalvestonDuck » Sat Dec 30, 2006 2:11 am

Brent wrote:How approriate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNWlGbKV0lo

:P


*snicker* "Keep your head up...."
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#131 Postby wx247 » Sat Dec 30, 2006 2:18 am

I have to add my thoughts tonight...mods if you feel this is too controversial, please delete but I feel that I must share my opinion. Keep in mind that I do believe that putting Saddam to death was the only option.

Call me unpatriotic but I don't find celebration in anyone's death. I find that quite distasteful in fact. Is killing Saddam going to bring our men and women home? Nope. Does it bring back the dead Iraqis? Not a chance. What kind of example are we setting if we celebrate the killing of a man? An eye for an eye? The cycle won't end if we all keep killing each other like this. It is sad that the world has come to this where we are forced to take charge and overthrow such an awful regime.

Was it our duty to put him to death? Yes, I don't argue with that. But to celebrate, cheer, dance in the streets, toast his death, wishing him to rest in hell... that is rational logical thinking? It sounds a lot like the other side who is fighting us. When they chop off the head of one of our own, they praise allah and dance and sing. What makes us Americans and better/superior to them is we only kill because we have to and that we do it with great pain and remorse that we could not solve through other means.

There was no alternative, but we should not look at this hanging with joy and exuberance, but with sadness at what the world has become. We have to stop the cycle...and it won't happen with the reactions I have seen from America tonight.
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#132 Postby BUD » Sat Dec 30, 2006 2:28 am

wx247 wrote:I have to add my thoughts tonight...mods if you feel this is too controversial, please delete but I feel that I must share my opinion. Keep in mind that I do believe that putting Saddam to death was the only option.

Call me unpatriotic but I don't find celebration in anyone's death. I find that quite distasteful in fact. Is killing Saddam going to bring our men and women home? Nope. Does it bring back the dead Iraqis? Not a chance. What kind of example are we setting if we celebrate the killing of a man? An eye for an eye? The cycle won't end if we all keep killing each other like this. It is sad that the world has come to this where we are forced to take charge and overthrow such an awful regime.

Was it our duty to put him to death? Yes, I don't argue with that. But to celebrate, cheer, dance in the streets, toast his death, wishing him to rest in hell... that is rational logical thinking? It sounds a lot like the other side who is fighting us. When they chop off the head of one of our own, they praise allah and dance and sing. What makes us Americans and better/superior to them is we only kill because we have to and that we do it with great pain and remorse that we could not solve through other means.

There was no alternative, but we should not look at this hanging with joy and exuberance, but with sadness at what the world has become. We have to stop the cycle...and it won't happen with the reactions I have seen from America tonight.


There was no option about putting him to death,but there was a FEW Dem. who want to see him back in power.
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#133 Postby wx247 » Sat Dec 30, 2006 2:33 am

The question isn't about whether or not we should be putting him to death, but whether not we should be so giddy.

Keep in mind it is only my opinion and I respect everyone's too.
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#134 Postby pojo » Sat Dec 30, 2006 2:41 am

All I have to say.... is it's about Time... he finally got what he deserved!
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#135 Postby JQ Public » Sat Dec 30, 2006 3:48 am

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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#136 Postby Yarrah » Sat Dec 30, 2006 6:28 am

@WX247: Very good post, I totally agree with you.

I hope this execution quenched this strange thirst for revenge and death a lot of people, especially in Iraq, had and that they'll use some logic from now on and start rebuilding their country instead of continually breaking it down.
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#137 Postby cycloneye » Sat Dec 30, 2006 6:50 am

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The end of the Saddam era.

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#138 Postby GalvestonDuck » Sat Dec 30, 2006 8:47 am

wx247 wrote:I have to add my thoughts tonight...mods if you feel this is too controversial, please delete but I feel that I must share my opinion. Keep in mind that I do believe that putting Saddam to death was the only option.

Call me unpatriotic but I don't find celebration in anyone's death. I find that quite distasteful in fact. Is killing Saddam going to bring our men and women home? Nope. Does it bring back the dead Iraqis? Not a chance. What kind of example are we setting if we celebrate the killing of a man? An eye for an eye? The cycle won't end if we all keep killing each other like this. It is sad that the world has come to this where we are forced to take charge and overthrow such an awful regime.

Was it our duty to put him to death? Yes, I don't argue with that. But to celebrate, cheer, dance in the streets, toast his death, wishing him to rest in hell... that is rational logical thinking? It sounds a lot like the other side who is fighting us. When they chop off the head of one of our own, they praise allah and dance and sing. What makes us Americans and better/superior to them is we only kill because we have to and that we do it with great pain and remorse that we could not solve through other means.

There was no alternative, but we should not look at this hanging with joy and exuberance, but with sadness at what the world has become. We have to stop the cycle...and it won't happen with the reactions I have seen from America tonight.


Oh, ya party pooper! :wink:

No, seriously, you know how I feel about capital punishment, right? And the Bible says in Ezekiel 33:11, "Say to them, as I live says the Lord God, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but that the wicked turn from their ways and live." It's a major point in the Mennonite/Anabaptist teachings. I believe criminals should get justice for their crimes, but not death. I also feel we should find ways to understand what drives criminals to act as they do, like when teens or scorned lovers kill in acts of rage and jealousy or when serial killers are driven to methodically torture their victims to death. It's my belief that if we can understand criminal psychology, we may be able to prevent something BEFORE it happens rather than have to punish the person AFTER the act.

Having said that, however, I've certainly never been one to waiver in my support of the troops. (No, Garrett, I'm not saying you don't support them or are unpatriotic at all. Just saying that I know death is necessary in war and something our guys have to face out there -- not a very Mennonite way of thinking and not something to celebrate either.) However, Saddam's execution was not an act of war. It was an act of justice in response to his crimes against the Kurds. Usually, I wouldn't celebrate something like that. But just as I celebrated his capture, I can't help but celebrate the end of his reign. Sure, it means death, in this case. However, he had a strong, dangerous, controlling grip on the Iraqi people and that power needed to be destroyed. Am I celebrating his death? No. I'm celebrating the end of his tyranny. It's just that I don't believe tar and feathers would have cut it.
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#139 Postby wx247 » Sat Dec 30, 2006 10:28 am

Gduck... I understand where you are coming from totally. I just felt that the mood of this thread was too ecstatic. I do support our troops (I know you didn't question that) and I know that people have to be killed. I support the laws of our country and others and that sometimes death is the only way.

It is the almost fanatical cheering,chanting, etc. I have seen this evening (and I am not singularly referring to this board... even in real life) that prompted this post. We, America, are different from the enemy because we hold higher standards, even in killing someone. We are the cut above... we HAVE TO BE... or else we are no different than the enemy we fight.
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#140 Postby Janie2006 » Sat Dec 30, 2006 10:31 am

GalvestonDuck wrote:
fact789 wrote:i wanted to see it live :cry: :cry: :cry:


Knowing the way things are going in this world, it will end up on the internet. Then again, Terri Irwin managed to keep Steve's video from going public. But something like this -- I'm sure there's an audience for it.


Yes, I'm sure there is an audience. The proof is in this thread, after all. I wonder how many people would buy a copy of the execution if it were sold for $10? And why should someone want such a macabre thing?

I have no pity for Saddam Hussein. He was a murderous dictator who probably deserved death a thousand times over. That being said, I find it difficult to believe that civilised people are celebrating a public execution as though they had personally won the lottery. Isn't this really schadenfreude?

I don't think this is about celebrating the end of Hussein's tyranny. After all, his hopes of returning to power were dashed the moment he was captured by US soldiers. At that point in time, and being in US custody since that time, he had no chance whatsoever of regaining his former role as dictator. None. Zilch. Full stop. So, exactly what are you all celebrating here?
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