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#12161 Postby HurricaneHunter914 » Thu Aug 21, 2008 2:47 pm

Fay is becoming a little mor organized, w/ a reds popping over land in her south quadrant.

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#12162 Postby sweetpea » Thu Aug 21, 2008 2:52 pm

He is still doing fine. I rubbed him down again this morning. He is running around here playing right now. He actually has gone out potty a few times with no problems. It is definitely working for mine. Thanks for asking!!
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#12163 Postby bahamaswx » Thu Aug 21, 2008 2:52 pm

Had she been stalled even 50 miles further off the coast we could have been dealing with a much stronger system landfalling now. Pretty tough to get your act together with half your center of circulation stuck over land.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay in East Coast of Florida

#12164 Postby dmaui » Thu Aug 21, 2008 2:54 pm

Downdraft wrote:Going to Home Depot in Sanford in a little bit. Can anyone tell me how long a "cubit" is. The plans I think call for 80 cubits long and 40 cubits wide. Winds are light gusting perhaps to 30 mph but the rain just doesn't let up EVER. It's been non-stop since yesterday. Some areas have broken 20 inches but luckily we haven't hit that mark or come close to it yet. The big worry is the St. John's River it flows south to north (that's correct one of the few rivers that does.) The head waters are in the Brevard County around Melbourne where 21 inches of rain have fallen so far. That's half the annual by the way. All that water is going to be headed my way on its way to Jacksonville. The end of the week is going to be very interesting for anyone along the river.

By the way Gators are now using picnic tables to get out of the water. It's nothing to see a snake or gator plodding down the sidewalks or middle of the street. The best scientific description I can give of Fay at the moment what a B@$^%!!


A cubit is either 12" or 20", depending on who you ask. As for time, well, you should have probably made that trip to the HD about 100 years ago. Add to that the permitting and inspections, and well, you get the idea. :rain:

Takes about a week for those waters to make it up here, and it's already 1.5 feet above normal I think is what the St. John's Water Management guy said today. I'm hoping we don't have the flooding like we had after the 3 '04 hurricanes.

What I am not looking forward to is a possible fish kill in the Wekiva because of fertilizer runoff. Had that in '04 and it was not a fun smell to wake up to, and endure for a week.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay in East Coast of Florida

#12165 Postby xironman » Thu Aug 21, 2008 2:54 pm

She will probably get fully organized once she is completely over land.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay in East Coast of Florida

#12166 Postby Brent » Thu Aug 21, 2008 2:57 pm

tailgater wrote:
tolakram wrote:Fay is rather large.

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I was just looking at the visible of her and noticed shes gotten a good bit large. She'll be slower to die off or ramp up no I think. A lot more moisture to pull from.


Yep, we've gotten cloudy with some very light sprinkles here near the GA border. Also somewhat breezy though nothing that notable.

Looks like a dreary next few days, though I don't expect that much rain. :roll:
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay in East Coast of Florida

#12167 Postby tailgater » Thu Aug 21, 2008 2:58 pm

I know someone out there will think I'm -removed- but I'll say this anyway, I would not be a bit surprised if Fay started moving a little south of due west. No science involved just seems like I've seen this scenario before. I'm sorry for yall in Fla. but also very happy that the peninsula is there.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay in East Coast of Florida

#12168 Postby bahamaswx » Thu Aug 21, 2008 2:58 pm

xironman wrote:She will probably get fully organized once she is completely over land.


This is a certainty!
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#12169 Postby dolebot_Broward_NW » Thu Aug 21, 2008 3:00 pm

Yup, this storm strengthens over land and falls apart over water...
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#12170 Postby Nexus » Thu Aug 21, 2008 3:02 pm

xironman wrote:She will probably get fully organized once she is completely over land.


Once her western side is pulling better from the gulf (which is starting to happen), she could start to look better, or at least not as lopsided :)
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay in East Coast of Florida

#12171 Postby Stormcenter » Thu Aug 21, 2008 3:03 pm

xironman wrote:She will probably get fully organized once she is completely over land.


I don't think it usually works that way. What happened when Fay first crossed Fl.
was a fluke. Tropical systems weaken over land. They don't strengthen.
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#12172 Postby tallywx » Thu Aug 21, 2008 3:06 pm

Nexus wrote:
xironman wrote:She will probably get fully organized once she is completely over land.


Once her western side is pulling better from the gulf (which is starting to happen), she could start to look better, or at least not as lopsided :)


ain't that the truth. Fay showed us that she favors juicy inflow from her western side than her eastern (e.g. her strengthening phase while over the west part of the FL Peninsula).
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay in East Coast of Florida

#12173 Postby NFLnut » Thu Aug 21, 2008 3:07 pm

Downdraft wrote:Going to Home Depot in Sanford in a little bit. Can anyone tell me how long a "cubit" is. The plans I think call for 80 cubits long and 40 cubits wide. Winds are light gusting perhaps to 30 mph but the rain just doesn't let up EVER. It's been non-stop since yesterday. Some areas have broken 20 inches but luckily we haven't hit that mark or come close to it yet. The big worry is the St. John's River it flows south to north (that's correct one of the few rivers that does.) The head waters are in the Brevard County around Melbourne where 21 inches of rain have fallen so far. That's half the annual by the way. All that water is going to be headed my way on its way to Jacksonville. The end of the week is going to be very interesting for anyone along the river.

By the way Gators are now using picnic tables to get out of the water. It's nothing to see a snake or gator plodding down the sidewalks or middle of the street. The best scientific description I can give of Fay at the moment what a B@$^%!!




I don't think Home Depot stocks Gopher wood any longer. Try Lowes!
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#12174 Postby jdray » Thu Aug 21, 2008 3:07 pm

Pressure is dropping about 1mb an hour here at my house in north Clay County.
Currently at 1006.

Have recorded a little over 2 inches of rain, but then again its kinda hard to measure sideways rain accurately.

Have had some decent wind gusts over 40mph so far as well. Gonna be a long night or two or three....
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay in East Coast of Florida

#12175 Postby funster » Thu Aug 21, 2008 3:08 pm

Stormcenter wrote:
xironman wrote:She will probably get fully organized once she is completely over land.


I don't think it usually works that way. What happened when Fay first crossed Fl.
was a fluke. Tropical systems weaken over land. They don't strengthen.


Not a fluke - I'd say it is a trend and it seems to be happening more frequently. More storms seem to be hanging in there longer than expected or intensifying over land. Maybe it has to do with something weird like global warming and the fact that nighttime temperatures have been much warmer on average the past 10 to 20 years or something but who really knows. Maybe it happens a lot and we just didn't notice until it recently. Whatever the reason - it does and is happening and it is no fluke.
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#12176 Postby Dean4Storms » Thu Aug 21, 2008 3:09 pm

Two surfers got out at Jax. Bch, one drowned and the other is injured.

Mayport reported a 61mph gust.

Jax NAS Gust to 58mph, that is inland a good bit, maybe 20 miles but along the St. Johns River.


Tybee Island near Savannah, sustained near 35mph gust to 43mph.

I think the pressure gradient is coming into play now and that in of itself may cause them to issue TS Warnings for the NE GOM eventually.
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#12177 Postby jdray » Thu Aug 21, 2008 3:10 pm

Bridges in NE Florida are closing as well. Anytime the winds measure greater than 40mph in gusts the FHP shuts them down.

Currently the Dames Pointe and Buckman Bridges are closed in Jacksonville to traffic.
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#12178 Postby NFLnut » Thu Aug 21, 2008 3:10 pm

dolebot_Broward_NW wrote:Yup, this storm strengthens over land and falls apart over water...



FAY is a cat. She's afraid of water, and she's a VERY bad, bad girl!
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay in East Coast of Florida

#12179 Postby Stormcenter » Thu Aug 21, 2008 3:11 pm

funster wrote:
Stormcenter wrote:
xironman wrote:She will probably get fully organized once she is completely over land.


I don't think it usually works that way. What happened when Fay first crossed Fl.
was a fluke. Tropical systems weaken over land. They don't strengthen.


Not a fluke - I'd say it is a trend and it seems to be happening more frequently. More storms seem to be hanging in there longer than expected or intensifying over land. Maybe it has to do with something weird like global warming and the fact that nighttime temperatures have been much warmer on average the past 10 to 20 years or something but who really knows. Maybe it happens a lot and we just didn't notice until it recently. Whatever the reason - it does and is happening and it is no fluke.


If that were the case then we have tropical systems forming on land all over the U.S. Please read the latest NHC discussion in reference to what will happen to Fay when her center is completely over land.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay in East Coast of Florida

#12180 Postby NFLnut » Thu Aug 21, 2008 3:13 pm

Stormcenter wrote:
xironman wrote:She will probably get fully organized once she is completely over land.


I don't think it usually works that way. What happened when Fay first crossed Fl.
was a fluke. Tropical systems weaken over land. They don't strengthen.




What happened with FAY is just another confirmation of the "Everglades Effect." Same thing happened with WILMA. Thing is .. north central Florida has no "Everglades."

.. and yet .. as I'm typing, the rain and winds are kicking up just north of Orlando again BIG time!

DIE FAY. DIE!!
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