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#1261 Postby robbielyn » Sat Jun 23, 2012 9:57 am

Its not stopping its just wrapping around a closed center its forming.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#1262 Postby boca » Sat Jun 23, 2012 9:58 am

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boca wrote:Could that shortwave in the plains actually sharpen the trough along the east coast?


It is definitely a possibility. It could be that shortwave could be stronger than what the other models outside the GFS may have intially had analyzed. Looking at satellite imagery, that shortwave looks rather decent.


Did you see how fast that shortwave is moving and its moving ESE and it looks like it could affect the dteering pattern of 96L
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/eaus/flash-avn.html
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Models

#1263 Postby HouTXmetro » Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:01 am

I'm starting to think the GFS was on to something. Just looking at the totality of things such as set up and current positioning. Starting to have a hard time believing this goes to far west. just my unprofessional opinion.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#1264 Postby crimi481 » Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:01 am

Based on NHC position of ther Low (clicking on "Fronts" tab) - and Sat observation...
The Low may be reforming/tucking in approx 30 miles to the E.S.E of NHC plot?

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/gmex/flash-rgb.html
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#1265 Postby Hurricaneman » Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:05 am

crimi481 wrote:Based on NHC position of ther Low (clicking on "Fronts" tab) - and Sat observation...
The Low may be reforming/tucking in approx 30 miles to the E.S.E of NHC plot?

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/gmex/flash-rgb.html


These possible center relocations are going to give the NHC headaches and I personally think this is going to be farther east than best track puts it

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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#1266 Postby Ivanhater » Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:05 am

Thunderstorms are starting to wrap around the northern circulation from the east...much closer to the center...certainly organizing at the moment.
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#1267 Postby Hurricane Andrew » Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:10 am

Can someone please post the best track for me?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Models

#1268 Postby pgoss11 » Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:10 am

HouTXmetro wrote:I'm starting to think the GFS was on to something. Just looking at the totality of things such as set up and current positioning. Starting to have a hard time believing this goes to far west. just my unprofessional opinion.


Yes..I have to agree with you. That short wave diving SE in the plains is really going to affect the eventual path. I can't see ths hitting Texas, but I'm not a professional and there are probably a few more surprises in store.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#1269 Postby crimi481 » Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:11 am

Winds picking up here in S.W. Florida -as bands coming up from south
http://radar.weather.gov/ridge/radar.ph ... W&loop=yes
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#1270 Postby cycloneye » Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:11 am

Hurricane Andrew wrote:Can someone please post the best track for me?


Here you go.

http://ftp.nhc.noaa.gov/atcf/tcweb/inve ... 012.invest
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#1271 Postby Rgv20 » Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:12 am

Looking good this morning....gotta be at least a TD.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#1272 Postby northjaxpro » Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:14 am

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northjaxpro wrote:
boca wrote:Could that shortwave in the plains actually sharpen the trough along the east coast?


It is definitely a possibility. It could be that shortwave could be stronger than what the other models outside the GFS may have intially had analyzed. Looking at satellite imagery, that shortwave looks rather decent.


Did you see how fast that shortwave is moving and its moving ESE and it looks like it could affect the dteering pattern of 96L
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/eaus/flash-avn.html


I first started tracking that system on Thursday night. That shortwave triggered severe thunderstorms and tornadoes across the Dakotas yesterday and last night. As you pointed out, it is moving down on the northwest flow sliding down the back side of the Intermountain Ridge. This piece of energy to me appears to be very sufficient enough where it could amplify the trough just a bit more in the next 36-48 hours. I think the GFS may have seen this all along and it continues to hold steadfast to its solution.
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#1273 Postby Hurricane Andrew » Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:15 am

Rgv20 wrote:Looking good this morning....gotta be at least a TD.

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h62/c ... LF_vis.jpg

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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#1274 Postby cycloneye » Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:15 am

26N-88W at this moment.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#1275 Postby ROCK » Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:15 am

IMO, that is a TD,.....center still exposed. Would like to see a CDO form if shear would let up...looks to be drifting west now...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#1276 Postby Hurricaneman » Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:18 am

The problem with this system is that the mid level low is about 100 miles east of the surface low which will prohibit strengthening

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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#1277 Postby boca » Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:20 am

ROCK wrote:IMO, that is a TD,.....center still exposed. Would like to see a CDO form if shear would let up...looks to be drifting west now...


You are correct its drifting west it will be interesting which model actually is right after all said and done

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/gmex/flash-vis.html
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Models

#1278 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:21 am

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ECMWF has better track record so "favoring that".

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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#1279 Postby Weatherfreak000 » Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:22 am

ROCK, I agree but with a CDO it would certainly get quite organized. Should just meander for a while I would think. My gut is telling me LA/TX border, obviously no forecast.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#1280 Postby Ivanhater » Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:22 am

That little spiral is rotating around the bigger low...the vort is moving SW currently as it rotates around
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