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Re: Tropical Storm Dean (pg.28) - Discussions, Analysis and Sats

#1301 Postby HUC » Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:15 am

The things are slowly,but surely in place for a hurricane to impact the east carribean...and i'am watching carefully this cyclone,as i do for each system in this location with the present track,in this time of the year..
Wait and see,and do prepared(my hurricane supplies are always ready ,because in 50 years i saw so much!!!!!)
Will keep you informed of the weather right there,if condition required...Can someone explain me carefully,because i'am not of english languge, how to send images(the Guadeloupe radar).....
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Re: T Storm Dean - Global Models=12z GFS run is being posted

#1302 Postby x-y-no » Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:16 am

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StormWarning1 wrote:
destruction92 wrote:Why is it that every few hours for the past few days we have just been posting GFS nonsens???

What about other model runs...like GFDL, NOGAPS, Canadian, and Euro????

We all know how wise it is to depend on just 1 model for guidance!


GFDL is run of the GFS. NHC weights the GFS heavier than other models, unless some really weird runin its forecast,they have said so.


Well here is what Derek Ortt (a respected and well-known meteorologist of ST2K) has to say about the GFS in a recent post:

"I do not use the GFS for forecasting hurricanes, so that run carries no weight for me

This kind of reminds me of what the models were doing with Ivan... they initially had Ivan missing the Caribbean when the synoptics guaranteed a Windward Islands hit. The Leewards are threatened by this one though... its not identical to the Ivan setup but does not appear all that dissimilar"


While I greatly respect Derek's judgement, that particular opinion is not shared by all hurricane forecasters. Read Lixon Avila's discussions, for instance (a forecaster whom Derek has expressed considerable respect for in the past.)
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Re: T Storm Dean - Global Models=12z GFS run is being posted

#1303 Postby Wx_Warrior » Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:16 am

Have some faith Ivanhater...This isn't the last run before it hits land!
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#1304 Postby KFDM Meteorologist » Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:17 am

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#1305 Postby Fego » Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:18 am

Hispaniola can disrupt more than Puerto Rico, but that is useless for us.
Btw, since last saturday we have been telling our viewers that we would be in dangerous zone the next weekend. I wrote viewers because I work in a newstation as an anchor.
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Re: T Storm Dean - Global Models=12z GFS run is being posted

#1307 Postby vacanechaser » Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:18 am

southerngale wrote:Meteorologists don't have to agree. He has a right to his opinion.


thats right.. and i for one, only listen to part of what he says, and many others here.. no one person is correct all the time.. just like the models..



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#1308 Postby Weatherfreak000 » Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:19 am

Appears this run might send the storm into the GOM like Ivan.


EC Strike to GOM entry? Big difference right? I'm still gonna wait for recon before I trust these runs.
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Re: T Storm Dean - Global Models=12z GFS run is being posted

#1309 Postby Ivanhater » Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:19 am

Watch out Jamaica in this run
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Re: T Storm Dean - Global Models=12z GFS run is being posted

#1310 Postby TreasureIslandFLGal » Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:20 am

Are the runs taking into account the fast forward speed currently in play or are they assuming an immediate slow-down?

If the Ridge remains quite strong, at least in the short term, the forward speed of Dean will continue to be fast-paced, making Dean be further along than possibly shown in the runs right now. Getting there quicker may cause Dean's path to be affected much differently by the trough than currently depicted.

What say y'all concerning the speed of motion currently depicted in the model run? Does it seem accurate, too fast, too slow? Ramifications of your belief downstream?
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#1311 Postby Wx_Warrior » Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:21 am

Until Recon goes out...I don't know what to believe or think!
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#1312 Postby Ivanhater » Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:21 am

Wx_Warrior wrote:Until Recon goes out...I don't know what to believe or think!


Lol..just look for trends
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#1313 Postby destruction92 » Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:22 am

Ivanhater wrote:
Wx_Warrior wrote:Until Recon goes out...I don't know what to believe or think!


Lol..just look for trends


there are no trends as of right now
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#1314 Postby windstorm99 » Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:23 am

Ivanhater wrote:
Wx_Warrior wrote:Until Recon goes out...I don't know what to believe or think!


Lol..just look for trends



LOL....No trends here from the GFS its all over the place.
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#1315 Postby KFDM Meteorologist » Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:23 am

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Re: T Storm Dean - Global Models=12z GFS run is being posted

#1316 Postby StormWarning1 » Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:23 am

TreasureIslandFLGal wrote:Are the runs taking into account the fast forward speed currently in play or are they assuming an immediate slow-down?

If the Ridge remains quite strong, at least in the short term, the forward speed of Dean will continue to be fast-paced, making Dean be further along than possibly shown in the runs right now. Getting there quicker may cause Dean's path to be affected much differently by the trough than currently depicted.

What say y'all concerning the speed of motion currently depicted in the model run? Does it seem accurate, too fast, too slow? Ramifications of your belief downstream?


Seems accurate to me, It has it slowing down around 55W. It may have the intensity a little to high at 55W also.
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Re: T Storm Dean - Global Models=12z GFS run is being posted

#1317 Postby Fego » Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:24 am

From NWS in Puerto Rico


AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SAN JUAN PR
1156 AM AST TUE AUG 14 2007

.UPDATE...PARTLY CLOUDY SKIES PREVAILED THIS MORNING ACROSS THE
FA. ONLY ISOLATED TO SCATTERED SHOWERS DEVELOPED ACROSS THE EASTERN
SECTIONS OF PUERTO RICO AND OVER THE COASTAL WATERS. FOR THIS
AFTERNOON...THE INSTABILITY ASSOCIATED WITH AN UPPER LEVEL TROUGH
WEST OF THE REGION...WILL COMBINE WITH DIURNAL HEATING AND LOCAL
TERRAIN EFFECTS TO PRODUCE SCATTERED SHOWERS AND ISOLATED
THUNDERSTORMS OVER THE INTERIOR AND WESTERN SECTIONS OF PUERTO
RICO.

TROPICAL DEPRESSION FOUR STRENGTHENS THIS MORNING...AND IS NOW THE
TROPICAL STORM DEAN. AT 11 AM...DEAN WAS LOCATED MIDWAY BETWEEN
AFRICA AND THE LESSER ANTILLES...ACROSS THE CENTRAL ATLANTIC...NEAR
11.7 NORTH...39.4 WEST. ATMOSPHERIC CONDITIONS ARE FAVORABLE FOR
GRADUAL STRENGTHENING DURING THE NEXT SEVERAL DAYS...WITH MORE
SIGNIFICANT STRENGTHENING THEN POSSIBLE AS IT CONTINUES TOWARDS THE
EASTERN CARIBBEAN. THIS SYSTEM IS FORECAST TO ENTER THE NORTHEAST
CARIBBEAN EARLY SATURDAY AS A HURRICANE...AND ALL INTERESTS ACROSS
THE REGION SHOULD KEEP ABREAST OF THE EVOLVING FORECASTS WITH THIS
TROPICAL SYSTEM.

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#1318 Postby Ivanhater » Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:24 am

destruction92 wrote:
Ivanhater wrote:
Wx_Warrior wrote:Until Recon goes out...I don't know what to believe or think!


Lol..just look for trends


there are no trends as of right now


In the short term yes...just have to wait to see how strong the trough is
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#1319 Postby HURRICANELONNY » Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:24 am

Make sure you have your flip flops on... :roll:
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#1320 Postby KFDM Meteorologist » Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:24 am

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