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#1581 Postby Guest » Sat Aug 28, 2004 6:06 pm

I think ncweatherwizard does a good job forecasting. He has been the only one close to/right on the intensity of this hurricane every time. He says specifically he is not the NHC, and his track is good. I like his, floydbusters, and dereks forecast alot more than the NHC's. However, when it comes down to everything, the NHC is the one to look at right before landfall.
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#1582 Postby Anonymous » Sat Aug 28, 2004 6:11 pm

LaBreeze wrote:Why then, are so many posters predicting a northward turn and up the east coast? Is there something that they see that the rest of us do not? Just wondering.


In the link above, the NHC track forecast for Mon-Wed is a straight as an arrow line. You can click the link and lay a piece of paper over the dots... Thursdays position is not inline with those dots and is a sign of at least some turn poleward by 120 hrs.... Hopefully this is a trend and it makes a U turn in the end and goes to sea!!!
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#1583 Postby hurricanefloyd5 » Sat Aug 28, 2004 6:11 pm

we have a cat.5 hurricane forming soon and might hit florida and the scaRY THING IT SOUTH/CENTRAL FLORIDA ARE IN THE PATH OF THIS POSSILBE CAT.5 HURRICANE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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#1584 Postby chris_fit » Sat Aug 28, 2004 6:12 pm

we can only hope Jekyhe
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#1585 Postby Anonymous » Sat Aug 28, 2004 6:15 pm

Yep....just believe/follow what the NHC has to say, just before landfall. They really aren't as good as ncweatherwizard, or many other non-qualified persons on this board. That's the ticket!

I will take Mike Watkins, and the Air Force met., before any many others on this board. Not to mention, other professional mets. that frequent here. The rest of us are "guessers", and not forecasters. Just remember that.
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#1586 Postby Brent » Sat Aug 28, 2004 6:20 pm

Jekyhe32210 wrote:
LaBreeze wrote:Why then, are so many posters predicting a northward turn and up the east coast? Is there something that they see that the rest of us do not? Just wondering.


In the link above, the NHC track forecast for Mon-Wed is a straight as an arrow line. You can click the link and lay a piece of paper over the dots... Thursdays position is not inline with those dots and is a sign of at least some turn poleward by 120 hrs.... Hopefully this is a trend and it makes a U turn in the end and goes to sea!!!


Won't happen. It would go into the Carolinas. This will not miss the U.S.
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#1587 Postby Anonymous » Sat Aug 28, 2004 6:32 pm

I think it may be a "mini hurricane".

I remember reading or hearing about, in intense Hurricanes, Hurricane hunters have seen what they have described as mini vorticies, above the highest cloud tops. I have witnessed this sort of thing in other intense Hurricanes, through satelite imagery before. Don't know if I am exactly correct in my analogy, but this is what I remember.
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Gulfstream data on Fances

#1588 Postby MGC » Sat Aug 28, 2004 6:47 pm

Until the Gulfstream data is incorporated into the model runs, I'd not revert into panic mode just yet. Depending on what the Gulfstream finds in the upper air enviroment ahead of Frances will be the key in the models getting a good handle on the forecast track. Looking at the WV imagery this evening does reveal a high to the north or Frances that is building southward. A potential weakness in the ridge is the low pressure system near Bermuda. Considering its close proximity to Gaston though I doubt this has much influency on Frances track. Bottom line, I'd be paying a whole lot of attention to Frances the next week. I sure hope Frances decides to go fish!.....MGC
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#1589 Postby wx247 » Sat Aug 28, 2004 6:51 pm

I do too MGC. I just don't see it happening, unfortunately.
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#1590 Postby NOAA-NHC Saubers1 » Sat Aug 28, 2004 7:00 pm

Everyone here is not pulling for a florida landfall, it looks like north carolina, south carolina may receive this nasty little surprise, some models are showing a possible change in northward direction in the coming days.
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Frances Heading WNW now

#1591 Postby CalmBeforeStorm » Sat Aug 28, 2004 7:05 pm

Over the last 4 hours position fixes show at least a 290 degree heading, maybe slightly more westerly then that.
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#1592 Postby lilbump3000 » Sat Aug 28, 2004 7:06 pm

Yeh she been heading WNW for the past couple of hours now.
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#1593 Postby JQ Public » Sat Aug 28, 2004 7:09 pm

both florida and the carolinas have been ravaged by several storms. Frances needs to buck the trend and go out to sea!
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#1594 Postby cinlfla » Sat Aug 28, 2004 7:11 pm

I agree on the wnw, please don't make fun me but I took a peice of paper and folded it in half and held it up to France's starting point on the loop and IMO she is heading wnw.
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#1595 Postby Brent » Sat Aug 28, 2004 7:14 pm

Defintely WNW. Might be a little south of the NHC track...
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#1596 Postby Stratosphere747 » Sat Aug 28, 2004 7:18 pm

Need a little help from the experts here...

I have been going by the GOES Floater images the last 3 hours and it looks as if it is almost going on a more due west course than anything....I know that it is not, but what causes this *slight of hand* view??
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Frances may be its own worst enemy

#1597 Postby abajan » Sat Aug 28, 2004 7:19 pm

By moving so slowly Frances' own upwelling may slow its intensification. Mind you, knowing how these systems have a tendency to intensify overnight, I'm still expecting to see something very close to category 5 by daybreak. :eek:

Time will tell.
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#1598 Postby WeatherEmperor » Sat Aug 28, 2004 7:20 pm

cinlfla wrote:I agree on the wnw, please don't make fun me but I took a peice of paper and folded it in half and held it up to France's starting point on the loop and IMO she is heading wnw.
Cindy


I do that alot too. Hey its fun to do.

<RICKY>
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#1599 Postby Aquawind » Sat Aug 28, 2004 7:21 pm

Yeow..Wow..Not to happy from what I have read and seen has transpired today..Not Good..NHC is on it...WNW continues..Whata eye!!
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#1600 Postby EDR1222 » Sat Aug 28, 2004 7:22 pm

I was wondering about possible upwelling as well. The storm is large and is moving slowly. Although the sst's out ahead of it, especially toward the bahamas are very warm.
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