2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1701 Postby wxGuy » Tue Sep 04, 2018 6:42 am

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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1702 Postby wxman22 » Tue Sep 04, 2018 8:41 am

The GFS,CMC, and some of the Euro Ensembles have been spinning up a tropical storm around the Yucatan/Bay of Capache for the last few days,the only difference now, is the last two runs of the GFS is saying that there could be a weakness in the ridge due to a trough in the west, which allows the system to move to the north towards Texas instead of Mexico, just something to watch for now...
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1703 Postby chaser1 » Tue Sep 04, 2018 10:25 am

SconnieCane wrote:FWIW (not much), 06Z GFS spins up what looks like a Gulf homebrew around hour 200 and brings it into the TX coast in the 990s MB between hours 252 and 264.


Interesting; I hadn't really taken a look yet but wonder if this was simply a piece of some northern axis "sleeper wave" had largely dragged over Northern South America and into Central America? That, or some spin-off vorticity from a Pacific ITCZ disturbance that somehow was pulled northward?
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1704 Postby toad strangler » Tue Sep 04, 2018 11:45 am

12z GFS has basically killed off the wave behind Florence (92L) BUT has let it slip through this time to the W and into the N Lesser Antilles with minimal vorticity signature.

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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1705 Postby SoupBone » Tue Sep 04, 2018 12:00 pm

toad strangler wrote:12z GFS has basically killed off the wave behind Florence (92L) BUT has let it slip through this time to the W and into the N Lesser Antilles with minimal vorticity signature.


It also buries that home grown Yucatan system into central Mexico at 264 hours.
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1706 Postby mcheer23 » Tue Sep 04, 2018 12:15 pm

We need to watch the BOC in about 8 to 10 days.
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1707 Postby HurricaneEric » Tue Sep 04, 2018 1:38 pm

12z Euro is getting REAL busy at hour 168 :eek:

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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1708 Postby otowntiger » Tue Sep 04, 2018 1:52 pm

HurricaneEric wrote:12z Euro is getting REAL busy at hour 168 :eek:

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That's quite the tropical fish train! An impressive train, but a re-curving one nonetheless, from the looks of that set up. 8-) :wink: Interesting note by the way and more knowledable folks here please correct me if I'm wrong, but it looks like one of the factors 'saving' the CONUS is an extended (from north to south) ridge of high pressure as opposed to the normal trough that sets up to steer everything out to sea.
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1709 Postby Hurricaneman » Tue Sep 04, 2018 1:58 pm

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HurricaneEric wrote:12z Euro is getting REAL busy at hour 168 :eek:

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That's quite the tropical fish train! An impressive train, but a re-curving one nonetheless, from the looks of that set up. 8-) :wink: Interesting note by the way and more knowledable folks here please correct me if I'm wrong, but it looks like one of the factors 'saving' the CONUS is an extended (from north to south) ridge of high pressure as opposed to the normal trough that sets up to steer everything out to sea.


Look at 240, I wouldn’t bet on that
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1710 Postby SFLcane » Tue Sep 04, 2018 1:58 pm

Thank you Florence :D
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1711 Postby Hurricaneman » Tue Sep 04, 2018 2:04 pm

SFLcane wrote:Thank you Florence :D

I wouldn’t say that yet, at 192 92L misses the trough and is in a dangerous position approaching The Bahamas and I would at least watch one of the waves behind 92L also
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1712 Postby SFLcane » Tue Sep 04, 2018 2:16 pm

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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1713 Postby Kingarabian » Tue Sep 04, 2018 2:18 pm

SFLcane wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/RyanMaue/status/1037056003739738112[tweet]


I can see at least one more storm forming and becoming named.
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1714 Postby gatorcane » Tue Sep 04, 2018 2:25 pm

If that many storms do happen per the Euro, you got to think one might slip through. The weakness created by Florence won’t be there the entire time. The ridge over the Eastern US looks very dominant. Usually we see troughs swinging through instead.

Euro heights 192 hours:

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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1715 Postby blp » Tue Sep 04, 2018 2:27 pm

I think the ole crazy uncle CMC is back and has taken over the Euro. I want my old Euro back. :eek:

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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1716 Postby toad strangler » Tue Sep 04, 2018 2:28 pm

Looks like a conga line of re curves :lol:
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1717 Postby SoupBone » Tue Sep 04, 2018 2:31 pm

Hurricaneman wrote:
SFLcane wrote:Thank you Florence :D

I wouldn’t say that yet, at 192 92L misses the trough and is in a dangerous position approaching The Bahamas and I would at least watch one of the waves behind 92L also


Yeah I posted it in the other thread, but it appears to be headed awfully close to the U.S. East Coast, not necessarily following Florence. Of course, it's way out there (time wise), so we have damn near two weeks of watching it. :lol:
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1718 Postby blp » Tue Sep 04, 2018 2:34 pm

gatorcane wrote:If that many storms do happen per the Euro, you got to think one might slip through. The weakness created by Florence won’t be there the entire time. The ridge over the Eastern US looks very dominant. Usually we see troughs swinging through instead.

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I agree. I don't remember seeing that strong a ridge so firmly entrenched over the east coast in a long time and every major model is showing this so this is not some Euro fantasy. 60w looks like the point after which anything will get trapped.
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1719 Postby otowntiger » Tue Sep 04, 2018 2:37 pm

toad strangler wrote:Looks like a conga line of re curves :lol:

Lol, yep- I called it ‘tropical fish train’! Sure as someone said, the high could build back in but with that steady succession of systems rolling in I think each system will be keeping the door open for the next guy to go thru.
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1720 Postby Kazmit » Tue Sep 04, 2018 4:23 pm

otowntiger wrote:
toad strangler wrote:Looks like a conga line of re curves :lol:

Lol, yep- I called it ‘tropical fish train’! Sure as someone said, the high could build back in but with that steady succession of systems rolling in I think each system will be keeping the door open for the next guy to go thru.

That sounds good to me. Plenty of storms to track, good surf, and no threat to land.
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