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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#1721 Postby Brent » Sat Jan 10, 2026 11:23 am

Lol of course the GFS is gonna show that after we're cancelling winter haha
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#1722 Postby wxman22 » Sat Jan 10, 2026 11:26 am

LOL I was thinking the same thing.Fool me once...
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#1723 Postby Ntxw » Sat Jan 10, 2026 11:29 am

wxman22 wrote:The 12Z GFS looks interesting... :spam:


It has tried to do this a few times. Some EPAC cyclone/system throwing moisture up into the trough. Not sure I believe it but would be wild. This stuff happens in Atlantic Canada and Greenland late in hurricane season.
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#1724 Postby Ntxw » Sat Jan 10, 2026 11:36 am

Typically you only see this from a true strong subtropical jet during El Nino, so maybe? Certainly modeling can struggle with moisture transport in these regions southwest of us.

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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#1725 Postby Cpv17 » Sat Jan 10, 2026 11:46 am

TomballEd wrote:I was getting into bed last night in IAH area. I heard some strong winds with the storms. We needed the rain.


Lucky you. I got hardly anything here. Severe drought continues.
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#1726 Postby bubba hotep » Sat Jan 10, 2026 11:52 am

Ntxw wrote:Typically you only see this from a true strong subtropical jet during El Nino, so maybe? Certainly modeling can struggle with moisture transport in these regions southwest of us.

https://i.imgur.com/eUagVOz.gif


Is there any precedent for this? A Pacific wintertime tropical low pumping that much moisture over cold air? Not a cutoff 500mb low, but a surface tropical low?

I guess that window is a "thread the neddle" situation, but surface temps look warm.

ETA: 12z CMC, ICON, and AIGFS are all dry, with temps in the 40s for that same timeframe. Never trust the GFS when it does something whacky and is the only model doing it lol
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#1727 Postby Gotwood » Sat Jan 10, 2026 12:31 pm

I’m not throwing in the towel Feb is always the best month for us. Probably be a year where we get another storm around V day.
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#1728 Postby TomballEd » Sat Jan 10, 2026 12:42 pm

wxman22 wrote:The 12Z GFS looks interesting... :spam:


Again, what looks like a weak EPac TC feeding moisture over air cold enough for winter precip/ I hope it trends colder because that is a fairly narrow stripe of snow.

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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#1729 Postby Stratton23 » Sat Jan 10, 2026 12:59 pm

12z Euro is very interesting, hints like the GFS, surface temps are in the upper 30’s though lol , but still interesting that the euro at least shows their might be moisture to work with this shortwave, cold air looks marginal, but still not a bad run
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#1730 Postby TomballEd » Sat Jan 10, 2026 1:10 pm

Stratton23 wrote:12z Euro is very interesting, hints like the GFS, surface temps are in the upper 30’s though lol , but still interesting that the euro at least shows their might be moisture to work with this shortwave, cold air looks marginal, but still not a bad run


I want a sub-tropical system but we'll definitely need colder air than the GFS has if we're to get anything in SETX and more than a couple of inches of snow in a fairly narrow stripe. As a glass full optimist, I always hold out hope that a global model doesn't correctly resolve how cold the surface airmass is. Good news/bad news is this is a weekend system but I have that Monday off anyway for MLK Day.
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#1731 Postby wxman22 » Sat Jan 10, 2026 1:12 pm

Stratton23 wrote:12z Euro is very interesting, hints like the GFS, surface temps are in the upper 30’s though lol , but still interesting that the euro at least shows their might be moisture to work with this shortwave, cold air looks marginal, but still not a bad run


It's been showing a light wintry mix as the trough moves in for a few runs now. It just took it away on the 0z run,but now its back.
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#1732 Postby wxman22 » Sat Jan 10, 2026 1:13 pm

Believe the GFS at your own risk.I highly doubt the tropical system verifies.
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#1733 Postby DukeMu » Sat Jan 10, 2026 1:21 pm

Cpv17 wrote:
DukeMu wrote:
Cpv17 wrote:
I wouldn’t get your hopes up. The CMC is way too cold biased.


CMC was the only model to nail the Feb. 21 winter storm.


The CMC is always 5 to 10 degrees too cold.


Not when it was 5°F here in CLL. Our Labrador LOVED it, though. She dragged me outside early and often in 6 inches of snow and ice!
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#1734 Postby DukeMu » Sat Jan 10, 2026 1:23 pm

wxman22 wrote:
Stratton23 wrote:12z Euro is very interesting, hints like the GFS, surface temps are in the upper 30’s though lol , but still interesting that the euro at least shows their might be moisture to work with this shortwave, cold air looks marginal, but still not a bad run


It's been showing a light wintry mix as the trough moves in for a few runs now. It just took it away on the 0z run,but now its back.


Seasonable temps. Mostly sunny skies for the week ahead in the NW territories of HGX (CLL). No complaints.

Hints of that potential wintry mix-chief N of Hwy 1*5 next weekend on the 12z's: CMC, GFS. We'll see.
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#1735 Postby Ntxw » Sat Jan 10, 2026 1:27 pm

bubba hotep wrote:
Ntxw wrote:Typically you only see this from a true strong subtropical jet during El Nino, so maybe? Certainly modeling can struggle with moisture transport in these regions southwest of us.

https://i.imgur.com/eUagVOz.gif


Is there any precedent for this? A Pacific wintertime tropical low pumping that much moisture over cold air? Not a cutoff 500mb low, but a surface tropical low?

I guess that window is a "thread the neddle" situation, but surface temps look warm.

ETA: 12z CMC, ICON, and AIGFS are all dry, with temps in the 40s for that same timeframe. Never trust the GFS when it does something whacky and is the only model doing it lol


I think it's a reaction to WWB, which does tend to translate with EPAC moisture (STJ) streaming up. I don't buy it yet, but such things are difficult to model for anyway. It's just a really strong tropical connection we've rarely seen the past decade. Probably most consistently back in 09-10.
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#1736 Postby txtwister78 » Sat Jan 10, 2026 1:32 pm

More importantly the GEFS and the EPS say this is much to do about nothing regarding what their operationals currently show especially the GFS.

Yes another brief shot of colder air relative to these long mild stretches but nothing to write home about and certainly not sustained before milder air rushes back in.
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#1737 Postby Stratton23 » Sat Jan 10, 2026 1:37 pm

Todays Euro AIFS Ensembles, EPS/ GEFS look closer ( not perfect) like p7/ P8 for late January in terms of their 500 mb chart patterns, im pretty conflicted as the MJO rotation ahead would strongly argue against sustained warmth
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#1738 Postby txtwister78 » Sat Jan 10, 2026 1:42 pm

Stratton23 wrote:GFS/ GEFS look more like p7/ P8 for late january, im pretty conflicted


I don't know if I would call it a trend just yet but that's the period I mentioned a few days ago I'd be watching (last wk of Jan into early February) if we're ever going to see a flip. That might be our window for it.
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#1739 Postby Stratton23 » Sat Jan 10, 2026 1:45 pm

txtwister78 probably, its honestly just a head scratcher trying to figure out what comes next, i wish winters weren’t this difficult to forecast, unfortunately thats the price for living down here, we dont get easy winters to forecast lol
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#1740 Postby txtwister78 » Sat Jan 10, 2026 1:51 pm

Stratton23 wrote:txtwister78 probably, its honestly just a head scratcher trying to figure out what comes next, i wish winters weren’t this difficult to forecast, unfortunately thats the price for living down here, we dont get easy winters to forecast lol


Agreed but that also makes the chase even more fun/awesome when one of these comes together and hits.
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