2016 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to Day 16)

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Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to Day 16)

#1781 Postby Miami Storm Tracker » Tue Oct 11, 2016 8:53 pm

If this does develop this time of year you have impulse's or fronts coming across the country from west to east. These will tend to lift what ever may be down there to the WNW NW or N. Once the front catches it they end up moving ENE or NE. Only way this moves due west if you had really strong high pressure to drive it west.
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Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to Day 16)

#1782 Postby psyclone » Tue Oct 11, 2016 9:24 pm

Miami Storm Tracker wrote:If this does develop this time of year you have impulse's or fronts coming across the country from west to east. These will tend to lift what ever may be down there to the WNW NW or N. Once the front catches it they end up moving ENE or NE. Only way this moves due west if you had really strong high pressure to drive it west.


That latter scenario seems plausible based upon the 6-10 and 8-14 day outlooks which lean warmer and drier than normal across Florida. Worth watching how these evolve in the coming days in addition to the model runs.
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Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to Day 16)

#1783 Postby blp » Tue Oct 11, 2016 9:47 pm

Looks like the NAVGEM starting to show this as a weak system at 180hrs

https://www.fnmoc.navy.mil/wxmap_cgi/dy ... oplant.gif
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Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to Day 16)

#1784 Postby blp » Tue Oct 11, 2016 9:52 pm

CFS has been showing something past several runs.

http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/cgi-bin/ ... &RES=0
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Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to Day 16)

#1785 Postby blp » Tue Oct 11, 2016 10:20 pm

Well the HWRF and GFDL starting show it as well but with much different timeframes and locations. I think you have a strong signal going with the models now.

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Re: RE: Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to Day 16)

#1786 Postby bamajammer4eva » Tue Oct 11, 2016 10:44 pm

psyclone wrote:
Miami Storm Tracker wrote:If this does develop this time of year you have impulse's or fronts coming across the country from west to east. These will tend to lift what ever may be down there to the WNW NW or N. Once the front catches it they end up moving ENE or NE. Only way this moves due west if you had really strong high pressure to drive it west.


That latter scenario seems plausible based upon the 6-10 and 8-14 day outlooks which lean warmer and drier than normal across Florida. Worth watching how these evolve in the coming days in addition to the model runs.

That could be true though things have been progressive so far and We've had fronts come thru on the northern gulf coast dropping temps into the upper 40s into the Florida panhandle. The fronts have been dry and thus the continued drought conditions across central and northern Alabama/Georgia. A very weak front is supposed to come around Saturday but gets washed out so overall just a warming trend through at least early-mid next week.

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Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to Day 16)

#1787 Postby Hurricaneman » Tue Oct 11, 2016 11:17 pm

looking at the 0zGFS its definitely the wave currently at 25W thats the catalyst for development I believe
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Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to Day 16)

#1788 Postby WeatherEmperor » Tue Oct 11, 2016 11:30 pm

00z GFS through 180hrs. Looks like its dropping development.................LoL!!


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Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to Day 16)

#1789 Postby Alyono » Tue Oct 11, 2016 11:41 pm

as i said, development is LIKELY but not GUARANTEED in this case. This is not the Matthew genesis scenario
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Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to Day 16)

#1790 Postby Alyono » Tue Oct 11, 2016 11:42 pm

there is no development as the MU has a totally different upper air pattern. Instead of an upper ridge, it has very strong westerlies this run
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Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to Day 16)

#1791 Postby WeatherHoon » Tue Oct 11, 2016 11:47 pm

Alyono wrote:there is no development as the MU has a totally different upper air pattern. Instead of an upper ridge, it has very strong westerlies this run


Hope it stays that way.
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Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to Day 16)

#1792 Postby Hurricaneman » Tue Oct 11, 2016 11:48 pm

Alyono wrote:there is no development as the MU has a totally different upper air pattern. Instead of an upper ridge, it has very strong westerlies this run


When in doubt go with the Euro
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Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to Day 16)

#1793 Postby Alyono » Tue Oct 11, 2016 11:59 pm

fortunately, its only the Canadian, but it's showing a worse than Matthew hurricane for Haiti
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Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to Day 16)

#1794 Postby Alyono » Wed Oct 12, 2016 12:00 am

Hurricaneman wrote:
Alyono wrote:there is no development as the MU has a totally different upper air pattern. Instead of an upper ridge, it has very strong westerlies this run


When in doubt go with the Euro



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Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to Day 16)

#1795 Postby bamajammer4eva » Wed Oct 12, 2016 12:21 am

Gefs ensemble Trend

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Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to Day 16)

#1796 Postby SouthFLTropics » Wed Oct 12, 2016 2:54 am

I don't think anyone should be surprised that the 00z GFS has dropped development. We've seen this many times before where the models will drop development in the mid to long range only to bring it back later. I say we wait to see what this weekends model runs start showing.
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Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to Day 16)

#1797 Postby otowntiger » Wed Oct 12, 2016 4:02 am

SouthFLTropics wrote:I don't think anyone should be surprised that the 00z GFS has dropped development. We've seen this many times before where the models will drop development in the mid to long range only to bring it back later. I say we wait to see what this weekends model runs start showing.

Yeah it is still pretty early for anything concrete to happen.
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Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to Day 16)

#1798 Postby SFLcane » Wed Oct 12, 2016 6:00 am

O6z has development again for all you 300+hr model lovers. Not much to look at here for now
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Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to Day 16)

#1799 Postby jlauderdal » Wed Oct 12, 2016 6:36 am

SFLcane wrote:O6z has development again for all you 300+hr model lovers. Not much to look at here for now
euro has a broad low down there
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Re: RE: Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to Day 16)

#1800 Postby lovingseason2013 » Wed Oct 12, 2016 8:10 am

Are you talking about this year? No 40s anywhere near here, 60s maybe, but not even close to 40s!

bamajammer4eva wrote:
psyclone wrote:
Miami Storm Tracker wrote:If this does develop this time of year you have impulse's or fronts coming across the country from west to east. These will tend to lift what ever may be down there to the WNW NW or N. Once the front catches it they end up moving ENE or NE. Only way this moves due west if you had really strong high pressure to drive it west.


That latter scenario seems plausible based upon the 6-10 and 8-14 day outlooks which lean warmer and drier than normal across Florida. Worth watching how these evolve in the coming days in addition to the model runs.

That could be true though things have been progressive so far and We've had fronts come thru on the northern gulf coast dropping temps into the upper 40s into the Florida panhandle. The fronts have been dry and thus the continued drought conditions across central and northern Alabama/Georgia. A very weak front is supposed to come around Saturday but gets washed out so overall just a warming trend through at least early-mid next week.

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