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#181 Postby Starburst » Sun Jun 10, 2007 12:22 pm

ahhhhh... constructive criticism is a much better word to use. I do believe you learn from experiences. Maybe this life lesson of using the word ridicule in the wrong context will teach the uninformed the proper wording to use next time.

Proper definition of ridicule is to laugh at someone or something; to make fun of them or mock them.
*** language, words, laughter, behaviour, etc intended to make someone appear foolish or humiliated; mockery or derision.
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#182 Postby Aric Dunn » Sun Jun 10, 2007 12:22 pm

Berwick Bay wrote:Aric and Dr. I'm sorry that I offend you. I'm not doing anything against the rules (but perhaps now using words like ridicule, you are). Aric, thanks for the scientific sites, but no thanks! You use the information as it it presents a certainty about what will happen, but your infomation will fail badly many times before this season is out. I admit, perhaps I am wrong, I don't claim to be foolproof. Now this word ridicule was tossed around. Believe me, I will not be "crushed" if my "forecast" fails. I'm trying to do something which is far and beyond what any of your models can yet accomplish. Sort of like playing chess against a computer model. If I fail, I will be batting .500 at something your computer models don't dare yet attempt. BTW does that word ridicule only apply to ME, if MY forecast fails. Will it apply to any others on this board who have gone out of their way to say that something is impossible?


i am neither offended or unhappy with you in anyway! i have already said i like what your are doing but my choice of wording was obviously a little " missleading" it is after words on a screen. and i dont think i used the word ridicule first i was quoting someone?

and yes. if you have not noticed i question everyone and i would love people to question me as well .. i always question the pro mets and everyone should .. dont just take there words for what they are.. there supposed to be professionals and should explain themselves.

anyway sorry if my wording was inadequate in getting my message across.
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#183 Postby drezee » Sun Jun 10, 2007 12:23 pm

WHo is Dr?
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#184 Postby Air Force Met » Sun Jun 10, 2007 12:23 pm

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HouTXmetro wrote:In BB's defense.... His Barry's prediction was dead on, that's why I give him the respect to make predictions like this without ridicule. Granted he may get some wrong but he isn't going off of junk science.


you have to have "ridicule" its the only way to learn..


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Please PROVE to us that making someone feel humiliated and foolish is the only way for them to learn. Please DO NOT just say that is how you FEEL!! We need PROOF like case analysis, psychotherapeutic reasoning that ridiculing is the only way to learn. Keep us posted, search and search and maybe eventually you will find something to make US believe you!!!! Do not take offense to this of course as I am sure we have the time to ridicule you daily until you submit this proof.


why thank you for that.. i believe that by you telling me that i have learned to choose better words next time... if you believe that you dont learn from experiences that you are mistaken.. all life is.. is a bunch of experiences! and you said feel humiliated.. who is humiliated? you ? me ? BB ? hmmm... can you learn not to be humiliated? how would you do that? what is humiliated ? maybe a lack of experience with being informed that you may want to re look your approach to certain "words you choose" or maybe a little "constructive criticism"?


Could you kids take it to another room? Between you two and the metaphysical forecasting being done...complete with poetry no less...I am having a hard time remembering that I am on the "TALKING TROPICS" forum. :wink:
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#185 Postby swimaster20 » Sun Jun 10, 2007 12:25 pm

sevenleft wrote:
Berwick Bay wrote:Aric and Dr. I'm sorry that I offend you. I'm not doing anything against the rules (but perhaps now using words like ridicule, you are). Aric, thanks for the scientific sites, but no thanks! You use the information as it it presents a certainty about what will happen, but your infomation will fail badly many times before this season is out. I admit, perhaps I am wrong, I don't claim to be foolproof. Now this word ridicule was tossed around. Believe me, I will not be "crushed" if my "forecast" fails. I'm trying to do something which is far and beyond what any of your models can yet accomplish. Sort of like playing chess against a computer model. If I fail, I will be batting .500 at something your computer models don't dare yet attempt. BTW does that word ridicule only apply to ME, if MY forecast fails. Will it apply to any others on this board who have gone out of their way to say that something is impossible?
Not sure if you realize it, but you did just admit your forecasting method is guessing.


I have great respect for BB b/c he has the courage to make predictions, but it's comments like what have been stated by some that make people stop forecasting. Why can't y'all stop belittling BB, just wait and see if his forecast pans out. Don't be so hasty to judge.
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#186 Postby sevenleft » Sun Jun 10, 2007 12:27 pm

swimaster20 wrote:
sevenleft wrote:
Berwick Bay wrote:Aric and Dr. I'm sorry that I offend you. I'm not doing anything against the rules (but perhaps now using words like ridicule, you are). Aric, thanks for the scientific sites, but no thanks! You use the information as it it presents a certainty about what will happen, but your infomation will fail badly many times before this season is out. I admit, perhaps I am wrong, I don't claim to be foolproof. Now this word ridicule was tossed around. Believe me, I will not be "crushed" if my "forecast" fails. I'm trying to do something which is far and beyond what any of your models can yet accomplish. Sort of like playing chess against a computer model. If I fail, I will be batting .500 at something your computer models don't dare yet attempt. BTW does that word ridicule only apply to ME, if MY forecast fails. Will it apply to any others on this board who have gone out of their way to say that something is impossible?
Not sure if you realize it, but you did just admit your forecasting method is guessing.


I have great respect for BB b/c he has the courage to make predictions, but it's comments like what have been stated by some that make people stop forecasting. Why can't y'all stop belittling BB, just wait and see if his forecast pans out. Don't be so hasty to judge.
I think I'm allowed to criticize someones methods. I can do it without being vulgar or disrespectful.
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#187 Postby Aric Dunn » Sun Jun 10, 2007 12:28 pm

HouTXmetro wrote:In BB's defense.... His Barry's prediction was dead on, that's why I give him the respect to make predictions like this without ridicule. Granted he may get some wrong but he isn't going off of junk science.
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and this is were the "ridicule" was used... it was my fault i should have caught myself and should not have used that again sorry .
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#188 Postby Aric Dunn » Sun Jun 10, 2007 12:31 pm

sevenleft wrote:
swimaster20 wrote:
sevenleft wrote:
Berwick Bay wrote:Aric and Dr. I'm sorry that I offend you. I'm not doing anything against the rules (but perhaps now using words like ridicule, you are). Aric, thanks for the scientific sites, but no thanks! You use the information as it it presents a certainty about what will happen, but your infomation will fail badly many times before this season is out. I admit, perhaps I am wrong, I don't claim to be foolproof. Now this word ridicule was tossed around. Believe me, I will not be "crushed" if my "forecast" fails. I'm trying to do something which is far and beyond what any of your models can yet accomplish. Sort of like playing chess against a computer model. If I fail, I will be batting .500 at something your computer models don't dare yet attempt. BTW does that word ridicule only apply to ME, if MY forecast fails. Will it apply to any others on this board who have gone out of their way to say that something is impossible?
Not sure if you realize it, but you did just admit your forecasting method is guessing.


I have great respect for BB b/c he has the courage to make predictions, but it's comments like what have been stated by some that make people stop forecasting. Why can't y'all stop belittling BB, just wait and see if his forecast pans out. Don't be so hasty to judge.
I think I'm allowed to criticize someones methods. I can do it without being vulgar or disrespectful.



whos being vulgar or disrespectful? or belittling anyone.. what is wrong with "constructive critism"


anyway and how about those raiders !! :)
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#189 Postby HouTXmetro » Sun Jun 10, 2007 12:31 pm

Can we get back to focusing on his forecast and analysing what is happening/ not happening?
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#190 Postby Aric Dunn » Sun Jun 10, 2007 12:32 pm

oh wait.. how about those tropics!! :)
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#191 Postby sevenleft » Sun Jun 10, 2007 12:32 pm

HouTXmetro wrote:Can we get back to focusing on his forecast and analysing what is happening/ not happening?
Pretty sure his forecast was debunked pretty well a few pages/posts back. Just have to wait around a couple days for verification.
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#192 Postby Berwick Bay » Sun Jun 10, 2007 12:34 pm

Air Force I too am sorry that Aric and Dr. Drezee have seen fit to go beyond disagreeing with my call, and have now resorted to personal attacks (ridicule etc..) After many assaults, my last post was the first time that I even addressed the personal atttacks. It will be the only time I refer to this again. I'm sorry that you had to witness that. Now you mentioned poetry. I've already been told by the management, that my poetry is fine here. Many here seem to enjoy it, and I always refer to tropical weather in my poems. Also, I've been told that its the policy of this board to listen to any and all opinions about tropical development, that its the "people's forum". So why then am I subject to attack. I would think that its the personal attacks that are out of bounds as far as this board is concerned, not my poetry and not my forecasts. They arebeginning to cross the line and engage in harrassment, which I'm sure must be against the rules. Air Force I respect you, we can disagree about something without namecalling and invective.
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#193 Postby Air Force Met » Sun Jun 10, 2007 12:36 pm

swimaster20 wrote:
sevenleft wrote:
Berwick Bay wrote:Aric and Dr. I'm sorry that I offend you. I'm not doing anything against the rules (but perhaps now using words like ridicule, you are). Aric, thanks for the scientific sites, but no thanks! You use the information as it it presents a certainty about what will happen, but your infomation will fail badly many times before this season is out. I admit, perhaps I am wrong, I don't claim to be foolproof. Now this word ridicule was tossed around. Believe me, I will not be "crushed" if my "forecast" fails. I'm trying to do something which is far and beyond what any of your models can yet accomplish. Sort of like playing chess against a computer model. If I fail, I will be batting .500 at something your computer models don't dare yet attempt. BTW does that word ridicule only apply to ME, if MY forecast fails. Will it apply to any others on this board who have gone out of their way to say that something is impossible?
Not sure if you realize it, but you did just admit your forecasting method is guessing.


I have great respect for BB b/c he has the courage to make predictions, but it's comments like what have been stated by some that make people stop forecasting. Why can't y'all stop belittling BB, just wait and see if his forecast pans out. Don't be so hasty to judge.


OK...let me make one thing clear here. If you are basically guessing and not using the model guidance...you are guessing or predicting...not making a meteorological forecast. Even when I use my instinct that comes from 20 years as a pro-met...when it goes against the guidance...I don't call it a forecast...I call it what it was...a WAG that got lucky. Period. Now...it seems like BB is an adult and can defend himself and so far I have not seen where he really needs it. People are expressing opinions....and they really don't need a bunch of people running around the play ground telling them to play nice....they already are. They just are expressing opinions some don't want to hear.
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#194 Postby sevenleft » Sun Jun 10, 2007 12:37 pm

Berwick Bay wrote:Air Force I too am sorry that Aric and Dr. Drezee have seen fit to go beyond disagreeing with my call, and have now resorted to personal attacks (ridicule etc..) After many assaults, my last post was the first time that I even addressed the personal atttacks. It will be the only time I refer to this again. I'm sorry that you had to witness that. Now you mentioned poetry. I've already been told by the management, that my poetry is fine here. Many here seem to enjoy it, and I always refer to tropical weather in my poems. Also, I've been told that its the policy of this board to listen to any and all opinions about tropical development, that its the "people's forum". So why then am I subject to attack. I would think that its the personal attacks that are out of bounds as far as this board is concerned, not my poetry and not my forecasts. They arebeginning to cross the line and engage in harrassment, which I'm sure must be against the rules. Air Force I respect you, we can disagree about something without namecalling and invective.
Disagreeing with your forecast is not a personal attack. Nobody has harassed you or called you names. Claiming otherwise is ridiculous.
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#195 Postby Aric Dunn » Sun Jun 10, 2007 12:37 pm

Berwick Bay wrote:Air Force I too am sorry that Aric and Dr. Drezee have seen fit to go beyond disagreeing with my call, and have now resorted to personal attacks (ridicule etc..) After many assaults, my last post was the first time that I even addressed the personal atttacks. It will be the only time I refer to this again. I'm sorry that you had to witness that. Now you mentioned poetry. I've already been told by the management, that my poetry is fine here. Many here seem to enjoy it, and I always refer to tropical weather in my poems. Also, I've been told that its the policy of this board to listen to any and all opinions about tropical development, that its the "people's forum". So why then am I subject to attack. I would think that its the personal attacks that are out of bounds as far as this board is concerned, not my poetry and not my forecasts. They arebeginning to cross the line and engage in harrassment, which I'm sure must be against the rules. Air Force I respect you, we can disagree about something without namecalling and invective.


what attacks? im lost now?
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#196 Postby Starburst » Sun Jun 10, 2007 12:38 pm

Air Force Met wrote:Could you kids take it to another room? Between you two and the metaphysical forecasting being done...complete with poetry no less...I am having a hard time remembering that I am on the "TALKING TROPICS" forum. :wink:


Dang just when we start having fun the parents come home :lol: :D 8-) :wink:
O.K. we will be good AFM I promise
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#197 Postby HouTXmetro » Sun Jun 10, 2007 12:39 pm

sevenleft wrote:
HouTXmetro wrote:Can we get back to focusing on his forecast and analysing what is happening/ not happening?
Pretty sure his forecast was debunked pretty well a few pages/posts back. Just have to wait around a couple days for verification.


Actually until we reach the June 13 to 16 time period his forecast is not debunked...
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#198 Postby Aric Dunn » Sun Jun 10, 2007 12:39 pm

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sevenleft wrote:
Berwick Bay wrote:Aric and Dr. I'm sorry that I offend you. I'm not doing anything against the rules (but perhaps now using words like ridicule, you are). Aric, thanks for the scientific sites, but no thanks! You use the information as it it presents a certainty about what will happen, but your infomation will fail badly many times before this season is out. I admit, perhaps I am wrong, I don't claim to be foolproof. Now this word ridicule was tossed around. Believe me, I will not be "crushed" if my "forecast" fails. I'm trying to do something which is far and beyond what any of your models can yet accomplish. Sort of like playing chess against a computer model. If I fail, I will be batting .500 at something your computer models don't dare yet attempt. BTW does that word ridicule only apply to ME, if MY forecast fails. Will it apply to any others on this board who have gone out of their way to say that something is impossible?
Not sure if you realize it, but you did just admit your forecasting method is guessing.


I have great respect for BB b/c he has the courage to make predictions, but it's comments like what have been stated by some that make people stop forecasting. Why can't y'all stop belittling BB, just wait and see if his forecast pans out. Don't be so hasty to judge.


OK...let me make one thing clear here. If you are basically guessing and not using the model guidance...you are guessing or predicting...not making a meteorological forecast. Even when I use my instinct that comes from 20 years as a pro-met...when it goes against the guidance...I don't call it a forecast...I call it what it was...a WAG that got lucky. Period. Now...it seems like BB is an adult and can defend himself and so far I have not seen where he really needs it. People are expressing opinions....and they really don't need a bunch of people running around the play ground telling them to play nice....they already are. They just are expressing opinions some don't want to hear.



thank you .. i wish i was able to word things that well..
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#199 Postby drezee » Sun Jun 10, 2007 12:39 pm

OK how did I get invloved? Please give one example of me "disagreeing with your call"...
I have said no such thing. This is between you and Aric and seven. I believe that may have placed my name in that response incorrectly. AFM never even mentioned me...
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#200 Postby Aric Dunn » Sun Jun 10, 2007 12:40 pm

drezee wrote:OK how did I get invloved? Please give one example of me "disagreeing with your call"...
I have said no such thing. This is between you are Aric and seven. I believe that may have placed my name in that response incorrectly.


dont worry i vouch for you..
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