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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Edouard - Gulf of Mexico

#1821 Postby dwg71 » Mon Aug 04, 2008 2:07 pm

cheezyWXguy wrote:
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vaffie wrote:Becoming more symmetrical in the last half hour.


http://www.atmos.washington.edu/~ovens/ ... nhanced+12

But convection seems to be diminishing near the center (and all around the storm for that matter). I would not be surprised if they lower it to 35kts at 5PM CST.

I am willing to put money down that the storm will not be 35kt at 5pm. You can keep willing yourself into believing that if you want.



Willing has nothing to do with it. Its closer to 35kts than 45kts... The dry air will hamper its development. If convection does not build over center, we will not have a hurricane.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Edouard - Gulf of Mexico

#1822 Postby Comanche » Mon Aug 04, 2008 2:08 pm

Ed, what is JB saying on his blog?
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Edouard - Gulf of Mexico

#1823 Postby HouTXmetro » Mon Aug 04, 2008 2:09 pm

dwg71 wrote:
Willing has nothing to do with it. Its closer to 35kts than 45kts... The dry air will hamper its development. If convection does not build over center, we will not have a hurricane.


I see no cold cloud tops whatsover on IR. This is weaker than what it looks.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Edouard - Gulf of Mexico

#1824 Postby TexWx » Mon Aug 04, 2008 2:09 pm

So I work and manage about 15 (chemical truck drivers) in the Channelview area.

I should just tell them to all show up?
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#1825 Postby KWT » Mon Aug 04, 2008 2:09 pm

I think the estimate of 40kts is fair enough, we need to see convection develop if this is going to go beyond a mid range TS despite the system having a fairly good structure right now.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Edouard - Gulf of Mexico

#1826 Postby cheezyWXguy » Mon Aug 04, 2008 2:10 pm

dwg71 wrote:
cheezyWXguy wrote:
dwg71 wrote:
http://www.atmos.washington.edu/~ovens/ ... nhanced+12

But convection seems to be diminishing near the center (and all around the storm for that matter). I would not be surprised if they lower it to 35kts at 5PM CST.

I am willing to put money down that the storm will not be 35kt at 5pm. You can keep willing yourself into believing that if you want.



Willing has nothing to do with it. Its closer to 35kts than 45kts... The dry air will hamper its development. If convection does not build over center, we will not have a hurricane.

just watch. 2 new bursts developing near the center...need to wait for the latest image.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Edouard - Gulf of Mexico

#1827 Postby HurricaneRobert » Mon Aug 04, 2008 2:11 pm

This should affect tomorrow morning's commute. I wouldn't tell anyone to get on the highway then.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Edouard - Gulf of Mexico

#1828 Postby Comanche » Mon Aug 04, 2008 2:12 pm

TexWx wrote:So I work and manage about 15 (chemical truck drivers) in the Channelview area.

I should just tell them to all show up?


High winds, wet conditions and chemical trucks, Rated-R coming to a theater near you.

I personally wouldn't risk chemicals in potentially bad conditions, but that's just me.
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#1829 Postby Stormcenter » Mon Aug 04, 2008 2:12 pm

Hey since most of you seem to have Eddie figured out I say we close this thread and movie on to 99L. :lol:
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Edouard - Gulf of Mexico

#1830 Postby jabman98 » Mon Aug 04, 2008 2:13 pm

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Stormcenter wrote:The avg Joe in Houston doesn't really keep up with Hurricanes. Many Houstonians barely felt Humberto as most of the Heavy weather was well east of Houston.

So true. Even some avid hurricane fans don't remember Humberto. I mentioned Humberto to a friend who is very interested in tropical systems, but doesn't really follow them online, and he couldn't remember Humberto at all. We got nothing from Humberto here - it was all Louisiana.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Edouard - Gulf of Mexico

#1831 Postby Sanibel » Mon Aug 04, 2008 2:14 pm

Hmm, now which system in the Gulf looks like it is becoming a compact hurricane?
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#1832 Postby Derek Ortt » Mon Aug 04, 2008 2:14 pm

some advice to everyone,

when people are asking for advice about what to do with the storm, if you are not a meteorologist, please direct them to local emergency management officials.. I don't want to degrade anyone, but those without the proper training are less likely to provide the appropriate information.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Edouard - Gulf of Mexico

#1833 Postby HouTXmetro » Mon Aug 04, 2008 2:15 pm

TexWx wrote:So I work and manage about 15 (chemical truck drivers) in the Channelview area.

I should just tell them to all show up?


You should probably prepare them to come in anyway. Get their phone numbers and if things go down hill you can always call them early AM and tell them to stay home.

"At the present" I'm preparing to be at work tomorrow based on the current conditions.

Just My Humble Opinion
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Edouard - Gulf of Mexico

#1834 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Mon Aug 04, 2008 2:15 pm

Bastardi still says hurricane near Houston area, with hurricane force winds w/i 20 miles of center at the coast, and earlier post set 980 mb as a possible floor.



Based on recon pressure falls of, at best, 1 mb per hour, I suspect he has swung too far the other way from the 1000 mb Abby comparison. But we shall see.

My gut, unofficial, of course, is 1000 will be closer, by a fair margin, than 980 mb.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Edouard - Gulf of Mexico

#1835 Postby JessRomero » Mon Aug 04, 2008 2:18 pm

jabman98 wrote:
HouTXmetro wrote:
Stormcenter wrote:The avg Joe in Houston doesn't really keep up with Hurricanes. Many Houstonians barely felt Humberto as most of the Heavy weather was well east of Houston.

So true. Even some avid hurricane fans don't remember Humberto. I mentioned Humberto to a friend who is very interested in tropical systems, but doesn't really follow them online, and he couldn't remember Humberto at all. We got nothing from Humberto here - it was all Louisiana.


Bull I live in port neches and it wasn't all Louisiana! WE had the eye pass over us. The reason i am watching this one so close is because of what Humberto did I don't put anything pass mother nature in general lol she is a women and we all r unpredictable!
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Edouard - Gulf of Mexico

#1836 Postby SouthFloridawx » Mon Aug 04, 2008 2:18 pm

It's a good thing this system is being affected by dry air... Could you imagine if it wasn't. That's a lot of land that would be affected by a rapidly intensifying system.
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#1837 Postby TTheriot1975 » Mon Aug 04, 2008 2:19 pm

What about this? How do people feel about Dr. Jeff Master's?
http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMa ... amp=200808
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#1838 Postby KWT » Mon Aug 04, 2008 2:19 pm

I agree Ed he probably saw the convection about 4hrs ago burst and it did look mor eimpressive earlier but now I have to agree that he probably has big time swang too far, his earlier comprasion of Abby is looking quite close to the mark as it happens :P
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#1839 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Aug 04, 2008 2:19 pm

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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Edouard - Gulf of Mexico

#1840 Postby Johnny » Mon Aug 04, 2008 2:20 pm

So JB thinks Ed will pull an Humberto or Claudette? I can see it happening and I can easily see it not happening.lol Time will tell I guess.
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