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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion

#1861 Postby sicktght311 » Mon Oct 07, 2024 12:36 pm

At what point does NHC start increasing their storm surge forecasts? they have 8-12 for the bulk of where the storm will come ashore, but theres almost no doubt, that if this storm goes through an EWRC, grows in size, but continues to push this cat5+ water, we're going to be looking at historic surge numbers for the areas well in excess of 15 feet
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion Update=175 mph

#1862 Postby weeniepatrol » Mon Oct 07, 2024 12:36 pm

...MILTON EXPLOSIVELY INTENSIFIES WITH 175-MPH WINDS... ...RESIDENTS IN FLORIDA ARE URGED TO FOLLOW THE ADVICE OF LOCAL OFFICIALS...
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion Update=175 mph

#1863 Postby Highteeld » Mon Oct 07, 2024 12:36 pm

36 mb pressure drop in about 5 hours.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion Update=175 mph

#1864 Postby Sanibel » Mon Oct 07, 2024 12:36 pm

We are witnessing a historic record Atlantic hurricane...

Depending on how it ends up this could be a civil emergency in Florida...

It is always the flat-trackers...

(I am an internet amateur...Go to official sources for hurricane information)
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion Update=175 mph

#1865 Postby AutoPenalti » Mon Oct 07, 2024 12:36 pm

Birds spotted. This is an intense system.

 https://twitter.com/crownweather/status/1843343978248450304


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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion Update=175 mph

#1866 Postby toad strangler » Mon Oct 07, 2024 12:36 pm

GCANE wrote:I think there needs to be a new term.
Accelerated Intensification.


OR ARI?
Accelerated Rapid Intensification
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion Update=175 mph

#1867 Postby aspen » Mon Oct 07, 2024 12:37 pm

When is the next recon flight expected to head out? Someone mentioned 1:30pm EST, so far nothing on Tropical Tidbits.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion Update=175 mph

#1868 Postby Pasmorade » Mon Oct 07, 2024 12:37 pm

weeniepatrol wrote:
...MILTON EXPLOSIVELY INTENSIFIES WITH 175-MPH WINDS... ...RESIDENTS IN FLORIDA ARE URGED TO FOLLOW THE ADVICE OF LOCAL OFFICIALS...

Four days ago, models stated that this would just be a weak frontal low...
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion Update=175 mph

#1869 Postby Kazmit » Mon Oct 07, 2024 12:37 pm

35 mb drop in one recon mission. Crazy.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion Update=175 mph

#1870 Postby weeniepatrol » Mon Oct 07, 2024 12:38 pm

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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion Update=175 mph

#1871 Postby Beef Stew » Mon Oct 07, 2024 12:39 pm

And with that, the AF plane is done. Now the long wait begins...
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion Update=175 mph

#1872 Postby Kazmit » Mon Oct 07, 2024 12:40 pm

It''s official. 911mb and 175mph.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion Update=175 mph

#1873 Postby ElectricStorm » Mon Oct 07, 2024 12:41 pm

Upper-level NOAA9 just took off, not sure when the next low-level mission is but it needs to be soon
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion Update=175 mph

#1874 Postby CrazyC83 » Mon Oct 07, 2024 12:41 pm

The next mission is going to be one we will be anticipating so much - and I hope the Hurricane Hunters have everything strapped down and are prepared for the ride of their life.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion Update=175 mph

#1875 Postby FLpanhandle91 » Mon Oct 07, 2024 12:42 pm

That recon about to take off is NOAA'S G-IV upper-level bird (Gonzo). NOAA 42 (Kermit) doesn't take off until 1500CDT.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion Update=175 mph

#1876 Postby aspen » Mon Oct 07, 2024 12:43 pm

ElectricStorm wrote:Upper-level NOAA9 just took off, not sure when the next low-level mission is but it needs to be soon

Yeah the NOAA9 flight was the ~1:30pm ET one mentioned earlier. Darn.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion Update=175 mph

#1877 Postby galaxy401 » Mon Oct 07, 2024 12:44 pm

Milton is just 3 mb away from Maria and reaching the top 10 most intense hurricanes in the Atlantic.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion Update=175 mph

#1878 Postby mpic » Mon Oct 07, 2024 12:44 pm

TomballEd wrote:The 24 hour drives to San Antonio during the Rita evacs are why we have contraflow now and why people in well built homes away from the coast are urged to stay put. 'Hide from the Wind, Flee from the Sea'.

It took me 24 hours to get from Dickinson to Woodville! I knew very little about hurricanes at the time and went right into the path lol.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion Update=175 mph

#1879 Postby Beef Stew » Mon Oct 07, 2024 12:44 pm

ElectricStorm wrote:Upper-level NOAA9 just took off, not sure when the next low-level mission is but it needs to be soon


Likely won't arrive for another five hours (give or take), unfortunately.

On the bright side, maybe I'll actually get some work done now...
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion Update=175 mph

#1880 Postby TallyTracker » Mon Oct 07, 2024 12:46 pm

Travorum wrote:
mpic wrote:

What is the reasoning for no contraflow? Is it because half the people will want to evac south? Is there a point south where contraflow would be initiated? Maybe I answered my own question?


I mentioned this a bit earlier but after 2017 Florida changed their emergency evacuation plans from using contraflow to using the shoulders as emergency lanes. I'm not sure on the reasoning for this, but my guess would be the logistical effort/time lost in activating a contraflow plan isn't worth the added efficiency. Emergency shoulder use provides 2/3 of the lanes and requires much less to activate. Not using contraflow also allows utilities and emergency resources to position themselves for rapid response easier.


Also it’s much easier to keep getting supplies in like gasoline and food for preparations. Contraflow slows all that down. Reality is most people stay in the area due to a plethora of reasons and supplies need to be available at shelters and stores.
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